Greenock Census and Deaths

[Genie24]

I think I should add that I have another mysterious Margaret Dinning (Dunning) who I had put on the back burner for a while. I have her in my tree as the daughter of Patrick Dunning and Sarah Docherty but I know she is not. Her marriage record shows that her parents were John Dunning and Mary Kanlay.

However, her father cannot be the same John Dunning who was the father of the Margaret Dunning married to Hugh McLean.  This one was married to William Reid and according the census records, she was born about 1840 Ayrshire. The dates range from 1838-1845 but her age at the time of her marriage suggests 1837.

But here is the strange thing, I just noticed, as I haven't looked at her for a while that she was also in St. Quivox, Ayr on the 1861 census . She married there in 1857. Her son, Hugh, was born at 6 Smith's Lane, Greenock on the 28th February 1863. The very next entry is my great x 3 grandmother's daughter Helen born on the 5th March 1863 at 1 Highland Close. My great x 3 grandmother, Ellen McKenzie nee Dunning was living at number 7 Smith's Lane on the 1861 census with her sister Isabelle married to Andrew McFarlane.

It's a complicated puzzle indeed but I think this Margaret Dunning is as closely related as the other one.

[Rosinish]

I have another mysterious Margaret Dinning (Dunning). Her marriage record shows that her parents were John Dunning and Mary Kanlay.

This one was married to William Reid and according the census records, she was born about 1840 Ayrshire. The dates range from 1838-1845 but her age at the time of her marriage suggests 1837.

she was also in St. Quivox, Ayr on the 1861 census . She married there in 1857. Her son, Hugh, was born at 6 Smith's Lane, Greenock on the 28th February 1863. The very next entry is my great x 3 grandmother's daughter Helen born on the 5th March 1863 at 1 Highland Close. My great x 3 grandmother, Ellen McKenzie nee Dunning was living at number 7 Smith's Lane on the 1861 census with her sister Isabelle married to Andrew McFarlane.

I'm a latecomer to your post but I'd suggest if looking for deaths the surname 'Kanlay' may be a variant of Conlay/Connely/Connelly?

There are no VRs for 1863 specific but in 1865 there were 19 Tenant/Occupiers living at 6 Smiths Lane, Greenock & 2 at no. 7 & 4 at 1 Highland Close - none of the surnames listed but they may have moved/died or had been lodgers with any of the tenants & their names wouldn't be recorded?

Annie

Add...1855 there's a James McKenzie at 6 Smiths Lane & an Andrew Reid at 4 Smiths Lane

[rosie17]

This looks like the death for your other Margaret
Margaret Reid other name Dinnon 1902 Gourock age 61 years mothers maiden name Carlin
I see she is with her son Daniel on the 1901 census in Greenock

Rosie

[Genie24]

Thank you for this latest information. The valuation roll information you gave is very interesting. I have found them to be very helpful.

I think the death you found Rosie has to be the correct one. I will look into getting it when I buy some more credits. Spending a small fortune.

I noticed that on the 1901 census, Margaret is recorded as married and not widowed.

[rosie17]

Is that on the original 1901 census on Scotlands People she is recorded as a widow on the transcribed census on find my past

Rosie

[Genie24]

She is actually recorded as Housewife.
I just bought the death record. It does not give very much information that can help me especially as the informant was a Clerk and not a family member. It reads:
Margaret Reid Hawker married to William Reid Labourer died 1902 June twenty first 7hrs 20mins am Gourock Poorhouse Smithston (had to Google this as was illegible). Usual residence 45 Marlon Street? Greenock aged 61 years. Father John Dinnon Hawker deceased. Mother Mary Dinnon M.S Carlin deceased. Cause of death Debility and Cardiac Arrest.

I had my doubts as her mother's surname is Carlin on this record and what looks like Kanlay on her marriage record but the maiden name Dinnon persuaded me.  I searched for other deaths of Dunnings with mother Carlin and the only one that came up was Jessie Dunning died 1870 Glasgow Central District age 25.

[rosie17]

I think this same Margaret appears on a few prison records  born Ayr
Margaret Reid/Dynan

Rosie

[Genie24]

I already have the 1881 census at Nelson Street West Prison, Greenock atttached to her. I have a note against it saying it is not confirmed as I wasn't sure about it. I've not seen a Dunyon reference before so looks like it is her. Are you able to direct me to the other prison records please.
I can't find a Marlon Street as recorded on her death record. It must be something similar.

[rosie17]

I already have the 1881 census at Nelson Street West Prison, Greenock atttached to her. I have a note against it saying it is not confirmed as I wasn't sure about it. I've not seen a Dunyon reference before so looks like it is her. Are you able to direct me to the other prison records please.
I can't find a Marlon Street as recorded on her death record. It must be something similar.

Yes I checked the name of the street also and couldn't find anything either several court  records on find my past or www.scottishindexes.com Margaret Dillon/Dunning/Dynon or Reid from 1881/1889

Rosie