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Re: Is this some sort of Dowry? Wigston Magna Marriage 1772
« Reply #9 on: Monday 17 January 22 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Another reason for choosing a licence was that it could work out cheaper than banns if groom and bride lived in different parishes. Doesn't apply in this case as John and Elizabeth were in the same parish.
See reply 12 by  Jon_ni on this marriage topic:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=857724.9
The Lost Cousins link in Jon's post shows a scale of charges in 1 parish in 18thC.
From another link I've learned that licences in Ireland in 19thC were much cheaper than in England. Consequence was a greater number of marriages by licence in Ireland proportionately than in England.
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Re: Is this some sort of Dowry? Wigston Magna Marriage 1772
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 January 22 18:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello Maiden Stone,

They were the Anglican registers. I did wonder that myself the name being Quaker-like. She was pregnant. By lic. 17 Oct 1772, John Coltman & Eliz. Abbot. Eliz Coltman baptised 9 April 1773, daughter of John.

The lost cousins lists a marriage bond at £1 9s 6d. I now have the 2nd sheet of the bond. I dont see why such a potentially hefty marriage bond was necessary. Thank you for the information and link.
Grt: Coltman, Peach, Kirk, Storey, Lattimer, Thorpe, Foers, and Sayles... May The Foers Be With You
x2: Neale, Smith, Cole, Bursnell, Swann, Stanley, Bellamy, and Greaves.
x3: Goodwin, Spencer, Jackson, Bingham, Laughton, Parkin, Pepper, Bell, Elliott, Cater, Morton, and Oates.
Five surname are edible items :)
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Re: Is this some sort of Dowry? Wigston Magna Marriage 1772
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 22 January 22 19:39 GMT (UK) »
The lost cousins lists a marriage bond at £1 9s 6d. I now have the 2nd sheet of the bond. I dont see why such a potentially hefty marriage bond was necessary. Thank you for the information and link.

I think you may be confusing the cost of obtaining the licence with the penalty.

The £200 penalty referenced in the bond would be payable only if it turned out later that there was a 'lawful impediment' to the marriage (if, for example, one of the spouses was not free to marry). It was essentially a deterrent to making a false declaration, and the payment would not normally be called in.


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Re: Is this some sort of Dowry? Wigston Magna Marriage 1772
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 January 22 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello Maiden Stone,

They were the Anglican registers. I did wonder that myself the name being Quaker-like. She was pregnant. By lic. 17 Oct 1772, John Coltman & Eliz. Abbot. Eliz Coltman baptised 9 April 1773, daughter of John.

The lost cousins lists a marriage bond at £1 9s 6d. I now have the 2nd sheet of the bond. I dont see why such a potentially hefty marriage bond was necessary. Thank you for the information and link.

All marriages except those of Quakers and Jews had to be conducted in an Anglican church 1754-1836.
Patient may have belonged to a Non-Conformist chapel. Several babies baptised in 1700s at a church near where I was born were named "Silent". 
Pregnancy may have been a reason for hurry.
The clergyman's list of charges on Lost Cousins shows a range of fees. They were over almost a century.  I wonder if £1 9s. 6d. was for the equivalent of a special licence. An ordinary licence cost £2-£3 in 19thC. according to another source.
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Re: Is this some sort of Dowry? Wigston Magna Marriage 1772
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 January 22 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello Bookbox,

It's the first time I've come across a marriage bond but I understand how it works. The £200 is only payable if the conditions of the bond are broken. Thanks. Andrew.
Grt: Coltman, Peach, Kirk, Storey, Lattimer, Thorpe, Foers, and Sayles... May The Foers Be With You
x2: Neale, Smith, Cole, Bursnell, Swann, Stanley, Bellamy, and Greaves.
x3: Goodwin, Spencer, Jackson, Bingham, Laughton, Parkin, Pepper, Bell, Elliott, Cater, Morton, and Oates.
Five surname are edible items :)
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives at www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Is this some sort of Dowry? Wigston Magna Marriage 1772
« Reply #14 on: Monday 24 January 22 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Hello Maiden Stone,

I didn't know that so thank you for the information. I've got the Will of Patient 1780 which mentions daughter Elizabeth wife of John Coltman and granddaughter Elizabeth. She married Thomas Siddans who is  an executor and administrator of the will. Thanks. Andrew.
Grt: Coltman, Peach, Kirk, Storey, Lattimer, Thorpe, Foers, and Sayles... May The Foers Be With You
x2: Neale, Smith, Cole, Bursnell, Swann, Stanley, Bellamy, and Greaves.
x3: Goodwin, Spencer, Jackson, Bingham, Laughton, Parkin, Pepper, Bell, Elliott, Cater, Morton, and Oates.
Five surname are edible items :)
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives at www.nationalarchives.gov.uk