Thomas Nevin’s Ancestors

[aghadowey]

Remember you were confused about the 'other' Ellen I mentioned? Here’s where the ‘other’ Ellen comes in. Back to 1892 marriage of Michael Flynn & Anne Madden- one of the witnesses was an Ellen McDonnell who turns out to be Anne's niece.
In 1911 (year following the above court case) John McDonnell is still in Lanesboro St. with his widowed mother Ellen and uncle James Shruane, a shoemaker-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Roscommon/Roscommon_Urban/Lanesboro_Street__Ballypheasan_/783871/

Earlier (1909) John was informant for his aunt’s death- Bridget Shreehan! (haven’t found her in 1901 census yet)
Bridget Shreelin, age 73, d.1908 Lanesboro St. Roscommon- nephew John McDonnell of Roscommon
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05468/4530644.pdf
Roscommon Messenger, 19 Dec.1908: Funeral Miss B. Shruane, We regret to have to announce the death of Miss Bridget Shruane which took place at her residence, Lanesboro’-street, Roscommon, on Sunday last, after a protracted illness. Deceased, who was 73 years of age, belonged to a family …  same day the funeral took place to the family burial plot in the Churchyard. The funeral was both large and representative,  remains being carried from the Church the graveyard. The chief mourners were James Shruane (brother); Ellen McDonnell (niece); and John McDonnell (grand-nephew). Rev Father McParland officiated at the graveside. To her relatives we tender an expression …
This is possibly the sister in Roscommon that Ellen Nevin stayed with until she moved to Corbo. Without seeing the actual article, it's possible bits are missing in list of chief mourners (why wasn't Thomas Nevin mentioned or was he?)

John McDonnell turns out to be the son of a Denis McDonnell (shop assistant) & Ellen Struhan. It looks like Anne Flynn, then Madden, might be his godmother?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03067/2124555.pdf
Baptism- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGTW-N2D
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633982#page/93/mode/1up (godparents Patrick? & Ann Madden)
In 1911 census Ellen McDonnell said she had one child, had been married 36 years, or 36 years ago, and was widowed. The child would be John.

Have to go an start the tea but will post more later (yes there is more)...

[Formernewyorker]

You are amazing. You are right I have a lot of the same information. I knew Winnie lived with her aunt and uncle but from my deceased father she was married to O’Malley, not sure of husbands first name. Checking with my sister and brothers. I am so happy you found my great grandmother on the 1901 Irish census and her death announcement brought me chills as my father Michael who died in 1983 took a trip to Ireland and put a headstone in Derrane Cemetary honoring his ancestors and his grandmother is actually buried there.

I did find a lot of Shruhans births with parents Joannes Shruhan and Eliza Scully, Another record for Elizabethan Shruffin with same parents. The parents were married 4/29/1840. Did not find a Ellen though. There is a Shruffin on Griffiths Valuation. There was also a marriage of Bridget Shruhan to a John Hunt on 2/20/1865 with her father James Shruhan.

Do not know if any of this is relevant.

Thank you so much for all your hard work.

[Formernewyorker]

Maybe Tom Nevin’s parents were in America too and my great grandfather Tom Nevin died here. It always puzzled me that this record of pension for Ellen Nevins came up when I went on Ancestry.com. Here is a photo.

Since his BIL Michael Flynn served in the civil war, maybe Thomas Nevin too.

[aghadowey]

We have the following people all with connection to Lanesboro St., Roscommon and I’m pretty sure all connected.

Anne Shreehan (c1834-1906) m.1 _ Madden, m.(1892) Michael Flynn (c1831-1909)
John McDonnell her great-nephew; 2nd marriage gives her father as James (dec.); sister Ellen Nevin living with her in 1901; Ellen Nevin’s son Thomas Nevin gets Corbo farm

There was also a death, much earlier, of an Anne Streehan/Struhan (c1854-1875 Lanesboro St.)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1875/020621/7235274.pdf (spinster, National teacher)

Ellen Shreehan (c1844-1909) m. Thomas Nevin
Lived with a sister (Bridget?) in Lanesboro St. until c1899 when she moved to sister Anne at Corbo; son Thomas Nevin gets Corbo farm

William Shruane (c1831-22 May 1897 Lanesboro St.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05863/4661994.pdf (William Sruan, bachelor, shoemaker, informant- brother James)

Bridget Shruane (c1835-1908), unm.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05468/4530644.pdf  (‘nephew’ John McDonnell registered death)
Roscommon Messenger, 19 Dec.1908: Death and Funeral Miss B. Shruane. We regret to have to announce the death of Miss Bridget Shruane which took place at her residence, Lanesboro’-street, Roscommon, on Sunday last, after a protracted illness. Deceased, who was 73 years of age, belonged to a family held in the highest esteem in Roscommon district, and her death

James Shruane (c1840-aft.1915), shoemaker
He is likely born before 1840. James & ‘nephew’ John McDonnell looking after Corbo. 1911 census says widower but death says single.
Roscommon Messenger, 26 June 1915: To make 17 yards of flagged footpath continuation the existing footpath Mr James Shruane’s house in Lanesboro’-street, Roscommon : probable cost, £10. Order, MICHAEL MORAN, 2-26-6-ld. Clerk of Council
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1925/05014/4369670.pdf (James Shruhan, single, farmer, informant- nephew John McDonnell)

Ellen Struhan (c1846-aft.1911) m.(c1875) Denis McDonnell. Only child: John McDonnell (c1876-aft.1911)
Ellen is called niece and great-neice of James Shruane. Son registered death of Bridget in 1908.

John Shruhan (c1824-1885 Lanesboro St.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06277/4798342.pdf (shoemaker, widower, informant- brother James)
? married Eliza Scully in 1840 https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633980#page/52/mode/1up

Mrs. Eliza Shruhan died 1882. John didn’t die until 1882 so is ‘widow’ error or was she married to another brother?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06383/4832496.pdf (Eliza Shruhan, widow of shoemaker)

I cannot for the life of me find Lanesboro St. in 1901 census & I have a feeling it’s not online. There are a few more deaths 1860s/1870s which not yet online but might clear things up when they are available.

[aghadowey]

I don't think that U.S. pension record is your Thomas Nevin (Sr.) as wife Ellen was living in Ireland before 1900 (possibly never left).

Could this be Ellen's husband?
Death of THOMAS NAVIN in 1870
SR District/Reg Area   Roscommon
Deceased Age at Death   54
Returns Year   1870
Returns Quarter   3
Returns Volume No   13
Returns Page No   206

Added- found marriage for other Bridget but can't read it and not sure if it's in the right area.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11563/8254117.pdf
Her death? https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05618/4580118.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Kilbride_South/Kinnitty/1668832/

[Formernewyorker]

Wouldn’t that Thomas Navin be a lot older than my great grandmother. He being born 1816 and she around 1844, 28 years her senior.

Again thanks for all your hard work. So do you think my great grandmother last name is Ellen Shruhan or Shruffin with her parents being Joannes Shruhan and Eliza Scully. I saw that Bridget Shruhan married John Hunt on 2/20/1865.

I also found a Ann Shruhan Galvin who died in 1838 and buried in Old Drum Cemetary in Roscommon . Husband Michael died 8/20/1841. Son was James.

[Maiden Stone]

Well done, aghadowey.
Formernewyorker, I suggest that you ask on the military board about that pension record for Ellen Nevin reply #29.

Putting the dispute about the farm into historical context:
The Land League was formed in Ireland in 1879 to campaign for land reform. It became a mass movement.
Several pieces of legislation about land in Ireland passed through the British Parliament 1870-1909. They included improvements to tenants' rights and introduced the right of a tenant to purchase land s/he occupied. 1885 Land Purchase Act set up a government fund to provide loans for tenants who wished to buy their farms. There were further Land Purchase Acts in 1903 and 1909.

Whoever could prove that he was the rightful tenant of the farm at Corbo and take legal possession of it, could later ask to buy it if he wished and apply for a government loan.   

[Maiden Stone]

Again thanks for all your hard work. So do you think my great grandmother last name is Ellen Shruhan or Shruffin with her parents being Joannes Shruhan and Eliza Scully. I saw that Bridget Shruhan married John Hunt on 2/20/1865.

I wonder if the surname derives from SRUFFAUN which means a streamlet, a little stream. English variant of the surname is BYWATER.
Joannes is a Latin form of John. John Shruhan & Eliza Scully.

[Formernewyorker]

I found another connection. When Ann Shruhan died, Mary Morris was present.

When Eliza Shruhan died at 2 years old in 1865, her uncle John Morris was present. So it looks like a Shruhan was married to a Morris.