One of my many dead ends Hugh Perry

[jim234j]

Greeting from freezing Winnipeg.

I have been trying to find information on 4x g grandfather Hugh Perry.  I have used Ancestry Record and the LDS records with no success.
 
This is what I know:
Hugh Perry had 4 children  Thomas baptized 1771, Jane 1774, Hodgson 1779  and Hugh 1779-80
All we baptized in Sunderland.
All baptism records indicate the mothers name was Elizabeth.
 I think there  might be a chance her surname was Hodgson as I DNA match with quite a few people who have Hodgson ancestors in the Tynemouth area.

I have been trying to find the  marriage of Hugh Perry to a Elizabeth a bit earlier then 1771 with no success and I have been trying to find a baptism of Hugh Perry Sr. again with no luck.

Thanks for any help or advice you can give me.


Jim

[CLP04893824]

There's a Hugh Perry, widower, who marries Elizabeth Hutchens on 5 Feb 1771 in Deptford, Kent. 

That's way down south, near London, and far from Sunderland, even by today's standards (thinking England, not mighty Canada). But Deptford is on the Thames, and Sunderland on the sea, so there might just be a maritime connection. 

Source is from Family Search, also indexed by Kent Family History Society in their West Kent Marriage Index. St Paul, Deptford marriages 1730-1812.

Hope that might help if you've not already spotted it. 

(I once spent a lovely summer in Winnipeg many moons ago, but wouldn't cope with the cold at this time of year)

Mike

[Pennines]

You would think Elizabeth's surname MAY just be Hodgson - as a son has been given this name. (I know that doesn't help much - just a thought).

[CLP04893824]

You would think Elizabeth's surname MAY just be Hodgson - as a son has been given this name. (I know that doesn't help much - just a thought).

or picking up a mother's name, 'lost' a generation back, which I've sometimes seen - and that would still explain the DNA - just another thought

[Pennines]

Yes indeed -- is your DNA result showing any Scottish ethnicity please?

[jim234j]

Thank you for your replies

I have looked for a marriage between Hugh Perry and Elizabeth Hodgson with no success or at least not so far with the records I know of.
I always felt her surname may be Hodgson because of her sons name .

I did another search for Elizabeth Hodgson on Ancestry and this popped up out of the blue
NameElizabeth HodgsonGenderFemaleBaptism Date1 Jun 1751Baptism PlaceSunderland,Durham,EnglandFatherThomas HodgsonMotherJane

I would think that there is a strong possibility this is the Elizabeth I am looking for of Hodgson was her family name. as she would of been around 20 when she had her first child.
Now I have to hope a Perry Hodgson marriage shows up

I then looked for baptisms for Hugh Perry/Parry again for the period 1730/51 and did not come up with many at all but the mothers names did not help and not a one was in the northeast of England.
I used Ancestry and the Family Search records.

As to the Deptford marriage i have put that in my records as I have learned never to suppose.
I had a very bad habit for a long time to assume that in the 1700s that people never travelled far and if it was over 20 miles it was likely not the one.  That caused me grief once computers and Ancestry and the like came into being.

Jim

[jim234j]

Yes indeed -- is your DNA result showing any Scottish ethnicity please?

My DNA is 47% Scottish but I believe it is all North of England Durham and Northumberland

[Pennines]

That looks a good one for Elizabeth - children were named Thomas and Jane (although I would have thought that the eldest son may have been named after Hugh's father, if he had a known one).

I have checked the 'Durham records on line' website, but can't find the marriage on there at the moment - also checked Scotlands People with the same negative result I'm afraid.

Going into the realms of fantasy -- I wonder if they went for an 'irregular marriage' on the Scottish borders? I am only suggesting that because we can't find a marriage - and they were easy and cheap for a couple.

[CLP04893824]

Good luck. The records are so patchy that far back it's frustrating. I once had someone with an elaborate will, carefully identifying extended family, which was great at maiden names, married names etc.