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Offline PaulineJ

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #198 on: Friday 07 January 22 15:29 GMT (UK) »
I am genuinely surprised by how many people expect the 1921 to be part of a subscription from day 1.

1911 wasn't, 1939 wasn't, and there have been many discussions on the press releases prior to launch regarding their published statements about access charges.

your 16.99 for a month would get you nearly 5 census images. for me, that would remove a requirement to buy at least 3 marriage certificates and 6 birth certificates. I realise that I may be untypical, but it's a win-win for me.

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #199 on: Friday 07 January 22 15:33 GMT (UK) »
sorry  bumbleb but their advertising did say exactly that or i would nt have paid up! esp after the experience with ancestry i made sure of what i was paying for, i even shown the link to the person on the phone who agreed with me its miss leading

travel to any of the centers is out unfortunately due to covid and my health

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #200 on: Friday 07 January 22 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried using the national archives catalogue for piece descriptions?

Well I've made a little progress today. The National Archives just refer me to FindMyPast, but I found that Registration Districts and Sub-Districts for 1921 are listed in an article on FindMyPast.

So I can tell that RD191 and SD1 are Romford. But then I knew that already, because the cover page in the extra materials on FindMyPast, on which the RD,SD and ED appear, also has Romford South Ward written on it.

I've also downloaded 256MB of materials consisting of completion instructions and other administrative information for the 1921 Census from the National Archives (free). Looking through that confirms that the page I am trying to find the address for is part of a single book issued to an institution, and that the Enumeration District in that case was likely to have been solely allocated to that institution, so should be able to give me its name and address.

But nowhere can I find a list of Enumeration District allocations. The district map is no help, as it shows the Enumeration District covering the whole of Romford, with a handwritten note that the scale is too small for anything further to be shown.

So I'm pretty certain that ED 31 in the Romford South Ward is either the Romford Union Workhouse or a Romford Union Scattered Children's Home. But which?

If only the person who completed the forms had filled in the address on the correct page :(
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Hodges - Somerset
Murden - Notts
Humphries/Humphreys from Montgomeryshire

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #201 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:04 GMT (UK) »
sorry  bumbleb but their advertising did say exactly that or i would nt have paid up! esp after the experience with ancestry i made sure of what i was paying for, i even shown the link to the person on the phone who agreed with me its miss leading

travel to any of the centers is out unfortunately due to covid and my health

This is what FindMyPast's main 1921 census page says:

Sign up with Findmypast
Get started for free. Then, access the 1921 Census from £2.50.

I do not read that as free access to the census
The "free" bit only refers to signing up to FindMyPast
Wainwright - Yorkshire
Whitney - Herefordshire
Watson -  Northamptonshire
Trant - Yorkshire
Helps - all
Needham - Derbyshire
Waterhouse - Derbyshire
Northing - all


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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #202 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:06 GMT (UK) »
I always expected to pay more for the 1921 census, and to pay to look at it online anyway, and knew it was not included in my monthly sub, not a lot in life is free.

If you want them free then be prepared to travel to TNA in Kew. It took them 3 years to transcribe the 1921 census and probably millions and millions of pounds. I am very pleased with the 1921 census. It will be the last census that will be released for a long time as the 1931 was destroyed, and no 1941 census was taken due to war.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #203 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:11 GMT (UK) »
sorry  bumbleb but their advertising did say exactly that or i would nt have paid up! esp after the experience with ancestry i made sure of what i was paying for, i even shown the link to the person on the phone who agreed with me its miss leading

travel to any of the centers is out unfortunately due to covid and my health

This is what FindMyPast's main 1921 census page says:

Sign up with Findmypast
Get started for free. Then, access the 1921 Census from £2.50.

I do not read that as free access to the census
The "free" bit only refers to signing up to FindMyPast

no you need to go to the page that lists the access and the 3 different price ranges, and you will then see the 1921 cencus is on that as being free for the pro subscription

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #204 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:13 GMT (UK) »
I always expected to pay more for the 1921 census, and to pay to look at it online anyway, and knew it was not included in my monthly sub, not a lot in life is free.

If you want them free then be prepared to travel to TNA in Kew. It took them 3 years to transcribe the 1921 census and probably millions and millions of pounds. I am very pleased with the 1921 census. It will be the last census that will be released for a long time as the 1931 was destroyed, and no 1941 census was taken due to war.

and not forgetting just how many people that simply cant travel due to the covid restriction! why miss a chance to recoup that money spent when the advertising states its free if you have the correct subscription

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #205 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:14 GMT (UK) »
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/help/articles/360010043438-what-s-included-in-a-findmypast-subscription-
*Please note that the 1921 Census of England and Wales is not included in any subscription package. The 1921 Census is on a pay-per-view basis using Findmypast micropayments. There is more information on why the 1921 Census requires micropayments here.

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Re: 1921 census
« Reply #206 on: Friday 07 January 22 16:17 GMT (UK) »
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/help/articles/360010043438-what-s-included-in-a-findmypast-subscription-
*Please note that the 1921 Census of England and Wales is not included in any subscription package. The 1921 Census is on a pay-per-view basis using Findmypast micropayments. There is more information on why the 1921 Census requires micropayments here.

wow that was quick of them to change things then since having to repay me, i know they said they would be doing that but i didnt expect it to happen the same day!