Mary Cave ....a puzzle

[chrissiecruiser]

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I wonder what records were available to those compiling the Biographical Index of South Australians that led the record to read, married by 1853?

 

Replying to myself

Maybe this is relevant

THOMAS   David aged 30   year 1853
Hospital, Asylum and Lying-in Home Admissions

WOW!  Sparrett,  this gives me another avenue to go.
Thankyou.
I will get busy.
Chris

[duinnsleibhe]

ADDING
I wonder what records were available to those compiling the Biographical Index of South Australians that led the record to read, married by 1853?

I think that they took information from anywhere, including members of the public.

A good description of the source of the work from Gould Books:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r57/

[sparrett]

ADDING  I think so too duinnsleibhe

The wonderful people who compiled the BISA obviously had access to all the  records there were.

The way the records were linked to establish the individual identities is amazing.

My speculative guess is that the David THOMAS was admitted to either Hospital or Asylum in 1853 and he is distinguished from others of the name by his ship of arrival on that admission record. Also his marital status was possibly recorded.

Thus his entry in BISA states, married by 1853.

Possibly also the family of his wife (his only family in the colony) did not place a newspaper death notice ( if he did in fact die in care), because it did not suit their perceived social position 

Sue

[duinnsleibhe]

My speculative guess is that the David THOMAS was admitted to either Hospital or Asylum in 1853 and he is distinguished from others of the name by his ship of arrival on that admission record. Also his marital status was possibly recorded.

Thus his entry in BISA states, married by 1853.

Possibly also the family of his wife (his only family in the colony) did not place a newspaper death notice ( if he did in fact die in care), because it did not suit their perceived social position 

Sue

I think that I have located the two entries for the Hospital admission for David Thomas.  I'm not sure how to link to it as it is on FamilySearch.

There are indexes at the SA archives that give the volume numbers to consult.

He was admitted twice in January 1853 with Delerium Tremens.


Edit to add the link to the SA Archives page that led me to the digitised record:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r58/

[sparrett]

Oh Dear.  This may be why the family chose against a public death notice.

Alcoholism.

 duinnsleibhe Just try a  copy and paste of the link to  the records you see from the address bar at familysearch.

Sue

[duinnsleibhe]

 duinnsleibhe Just try a  copy and paste of the link to  the records you see from the address bar at familysearch.

Sue

Here is the shortened link:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r59/

There is one entry near the top of the page, and another towards the bottom for David Thomas.

Edit to add:  That link works for me, but I am logged in to FS.

[sparrett]

Definitely the correct chap.
Great work

It does show M for married in the correct column and it does state draper, so that is where the BISA information came from, but I cannot see his ship of arrival listed.

I am guessing there are further records somewhere (or lost)

Sue

[duinnsleibhe]

Sorry, I should not have been so hasty to post. 

Here is the second volume's entry for David Thomas, which does list ship of entry, and other things.  It also mentions that alternative place Oswaldsey

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r5a/

[sparrett]

Fantastic.
It's nailed.

Interesting someone paid the fee to enter him to the hospital in both instances. Money was not an issue.

The lack of death record is a mystery to me, but there are lost and omitted records everywhere in indexes of the world!

Sue