Ormshaw's in Wigan look up please

[buttercup]

HI there another look up please if possible! 

In 1861 Wigan

Dad: Edward ORMSHAW b. 1810 (age 50)
Mum: Mary ORMSHAW

John b. 1837   (age 24)
margaret  b. 1840   (age 21)
Peter  b. 1843  (age 18)
Alex??    b. ??       
Mary     b. 1853    (age 8 )
Edward  b. 1858   (age 3)

If they cant be found in 1861 could an 1871 lookup be done for them please?? Hope im not asking too much

Also a Peter ORMSHAW b. roughly 1833 (or around then anyway) who may be married to an Elizabeth.
Location in Wigan

Thanks heaps
Jen

[willow2670]

1871 ref: RG10/3884 Folio 56

John Ormshaw Head 35 b Wigan, Lancashire       Coal miner
Elizabeth Ormshaw Wife 35 b Wigan, Lancashire
Edward Ormshaw Son 11 b Wigan, Lancashire
Catharine Ormshaw Dau 2 b Wigan, Lancashire
Thomas Conwell Boarder 60 b Ireland                 Hawker
Ellen Conwell Wife 48 b Ireland                               "   
1 BoysWell Lane, Wigan,  Lancashire   
 
Sue

[willow2670]

This could be one of the Peter Ormshaw's
1871 ref: RG10/3881 Folio 8

Peter Ormshaw Head 24 b Wigan, Lancashire          Coal miner
Margaret Ormshaw Wife 23 b Coppul, Lancashire
Alice Ormshaw Dau 2mths b Standish, Lancashire
38 High St, Standish,  Lancashire   
Reg Dist: Wigan

Sue
 

[willow2670]

1871 RG10/3885 Folio 14

Peter Ormshaw Head 44 b Wigan, Lancashire         Carter
Margaret Ormshaw Wife 41 b Wigan, Lancashire
Margaret Ormshaw Dau 15 b Wigan, Lancashire       Cotton Weaver
Thomas Ormshaw Son 10 b Wigan, Lancashire 
Charles Ormshaw Son 8 b Wigan, Lancashire
Alice Ormshaw Dau 6 b Wigan, Lancashire
William Ormshaw Son 2 b Wigan, Lancashire
Thomas Ramsdale Boarder 70 b Wigan, Lancashire     Cotton Weaver
177 Scholes St, Wigan,  Lancashire   

Sue
 

[willow2670]

Here's the family in 1861
Ref: RG9/2777 Folio 5

Edward Ormsher Head 48 b Wigan, Lancashire           Cotton Weaver & Provision Dealer
Mary Ormsher Wife 35 b Wigan, Lancashire
Margaret Ormsher Dau 21 Unm b Wigan, Lancashire    Cotton Spinner
Peter Ormsher Son 18 b Wigan, Lancashire                  Coal Drawer
Alexander Ormsher Son 16 b Wigan, Lancashire              "         "
Edward Ormsher Son 12 b Wigan, Lancashire                  "          "
Mary Ormsher Dau 8 b Wigan, Lancashire 
8 Patricks Row, Wigan,  Lancashire   
   
Sue

[willow2670]

1871 ref: RG10/3889 Folio 8
 
Edward Ormshew Head 60 b Wigan, Lancashire           Shopkeeper
Mary Ormshew Wife 44 b Wigan, Lancashire
Mary Ormshew Dau 19 b Wigan, Lancashire                  Dress maker
Edward Ormshew Son 13 b Wigan, Lancashire
Mary Critchley Servant 24 b Wigan
Mary Critchley Dau Of Serv 3mths b Wigan
8 Patricks Row, Wigan, Lancashire   
 

[buttercup]

WOW!! Thanks for that Sue!! 

Where would people liek me be without those like you!?!?!

The Ormshaws seemed to have a habit of using the same names over and over again...

Well guess im off to sort these groups out, no doubt that'l keep me busy for an afternoon!

Cheers!! Jen

[em79]

It also seems that many lived in Patricks Row too! I have been given some information to my tree which suggests my Paternal gggreat grandmother was a Mary Ann Ormshaw born c1843 her marriage in 1861 gives her father as William Ormshaw and Address as Patrick's Row!

[Radcliff]

the address is correct
All Saints
3rd June 1861
William Knowles,x,22,miner bachelor of Patricks Row
Mary Ann Ormshaw,x,19,spinster of Patricks Row
grooms father John Knowles,labourer deceased
brides father William Ormshaw,weaver deceased
witness to marriage John Critchely and Mary Heyes