Fox Hall Newydd. Henllan.

[hanes teulu]

Re. the "newydd" -

"With regard to the ruin of Foxhall, vol iv page 69, it would appear from Pennant that it is only one wing of a design of John Panton, Recorder of Denbighshire and M.P., 1592 and 1601, and that it was afterwards bought by the Rosendales of the true or old Foxhall, adjoining"

(Archaelogia Cambrensis, 1 Jan 1853)

[Ruskie]

Can you clarify where you discovered "never lived in?".
The link in your post 1 mentions "... never completed ..." but goes on to say "... The finished section was, however, fully fitted out and inhabited ...".

There is a gamekeeper occupying "Foxhall Newydd" in '81.

Presumably the description in the Listed Buildings link, led to the assumption that Foxhall wasn’t lived in despite the mention of a finished section: Foxhall Newyd was unfinished and abandoned at the end of the C18 and by the end of the C19 was already ruinous. This does imply Foxhall Newyd was a ruin at the time that the Robert’s were living there. 

Slightly contradictory info perhaps led to confusion?

There is also mention in my link discoveringoldwelshhoises of a cottage alongside Foxhall Newyd where a gamekeeper is living in the 1841 census.

Initially, before looking into it further, I thought it odd that a gamekeeper would be housed in such a huge place, but if it was unfinished and in bad order, perhaps they would have been …. Either that or they lived in the adjoining cottage?

[wilcoxon]

I found Foxhall on Welsh Tithe Maps,  but can't find a corresponding plot number.

The buildings don't seem to be the abandoned building which could be to the right.

Attachment waiting approval

[hanes teulu]

Just had a session on Tithe maps - but not looking for Foxhall.

[hanes teulu]

Found a Foxhall - plot no. 1353.

[wilcoxon]

Yep, same as me 🙂

[hanes teulu]

The owner is Miss Harriet Myddleton, occupier Owen Griffith.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

when the estate was sold in 1909 there were a number of buildings

Lodge Farm - 443 acres, dairy and stock
Foxhall - dairy and stock farm
Foxhall Newydd - includes timber and shooting

Older fine houses that had fallen on hard times were sometimes rented out to locals. I seem to remember St Fagans Castle outside Cardiff (a Tudor fortified house) was acquired by various families through marriage and not occuied as a main home. It was occupied by a local farm in a tumbledown unitl the mid 19th century when the Earl of Plymouth decided he needed somewhere to stay when visiting his south Wales holdings which were now making him lots of money because they had coal underneath them and remembered he owned this old manor house

[Ruskie]

Removed