Mixed Marriages 19th c Germany

[Rena]

It could be worth looking for a marriage later on. I have several examples in my family where the partners were both Catholic and eventually married after a few children came along.

I'd recommend that too.

I was lucky that the local vicar listed his parishioners in what was known as a "people count"   Most other local vicars listed the buildings and perhaps the local dignitaries but only gave a number of parishioners living locally.

What was noticeable about my gt. gt. grandparents was that they didn't live with their own parents.  Sophia lived with the single womenin Gross Mahner and her beau lived with the single men.  Their children lived in Flachstockheim with the maternal grandparents.    It seemed to me that they had to wait to get married until a house became vacant for them to rent

[davecapps]

Johanna Catharina Schneider (ihr erster spur(ius) hier nicht aufgeführt
                       ist nicht hier geborn. u.(nd) früh gestorben)

1.  Catharina Friederika Bertha 1837 19 Dec(ember)
P Gutsarbeiter Karl Theod(or) Andrae, angeblich

Die Folgende Kinder alle hier von Regimentsthierarzt  im II ten Regiment
August D'ambly kathol(isch) / 3286 ??

2. August Ernst 1839, 11 Nov
3. Ernestine Louise 1840, 21 Dec
4. Pauline Maria 1843, 25 Aug
5. Carl Alexander 1844, 18 Juli
6. Maximilian Hugo 1846, 17 Nov


Johanna Catharina Schneider (her first illegitimat, not listet here, not born here and died early.

1.  Catharina Friederika Bertha 1837 19 Dec(ember)
P estate worker Karl Theod(or) Andrae, allegedly

The following children all here from the regimental vet from the IInd Regiment
August D'ambly catholic / 3286

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spurius

Dave

[davisd]

davecapps, Many thanks that clarifies things! You are most kind. I am thrilled to have this! I noted the word spur and wondered how it was used.

[davisd]

I do know that he was a great reader of Goethe, Schiller and Heine. Would that  indicate progressive ideas and a less strict approach to marriage and children? Both her and his families were middle class so it is a wonderment they never married. H died very young and only a year after his last child was born.

[Zefiro]

@davecapps: thank you for your transcription. I tried it myself, but didn't manage to decipher everything. Thanks to your contribution I can improve my skills on this. It's not always the topic starter alone that benefits from the 'work' done here!

[davisd]

@davecapps: thank you for your transcription. I tried it myself, but didn't manage to decipher everything. Thanks to your contribution I can improve my skills on this. It's not always the topic starter alone that benefits from the 'work' done here!

Yes indeed!

[davecapps]

@davecapps: thank you for your transcription. I tried it myself, but didn't manage to decipher everything. Thanks to your contribution I can improve my skills on this. It's not always the topic starter alone that benefits from the 'work' done here!

Yes indeed!

Hi Zefiro
I also needed help on a couple of words.
This is what its all about.
Helping each other
Dave

[davisd]

I come back to this relationship as it is seminal to my family's story. You have clarified evidence that my great great grandparents were not married, He was Catholic and she Lutheran (whether that had anything to do with it or not I do not know. You read the schrift for me explaining that in fact he was already married to a Catholic woman far away in Hannover while my gr great grandmother lived in Stuttgart (where he also apparently lived).

Trying to understand this Lutheran unmarried mother I've gone back to the birth certificate for her first daughter by another man (Carl Theodor Andrä) in 1837. The writing is sloppy, but I wonder if either of you gentlemen can glean anything from what is says about the mother 'Johanna Schneider'?

I notice that while most baptisms in this era seem to have numerous sponsors in each case with her six children there are only two. I know her mother died when she was 9 and her father when she was 14. She left her Lutheran prayerbook with an inscription about the 'beloved father of my children'.

[davisd]

I can add part of the baptismal certificate of another child this one has a bit more verbiage around her name and the father listed as August D'Ambly that perhaps is descriptive?