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Re: Stewarts of Perthshire - Clunie, Caputh, 1700s
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 04 December 21 20:09 GMT (UK) »
So there is zero certainty about Caputh.. it just seemed to be the closest...

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Re: Stewarts of Perthshire - Clunie, Caputh, 1700s
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 05 December 21 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Well there are some things you can do. One is to compare all the kids names. Kids belonging to James, kids belonging to William...and his siblings kids. There could be clues in the repeating of names such as William's children Christian and Peter etc.

Another angle is to compare DNA to the person on wikitree claiming to be a DNA relative of James Stewart. Have you got your DNA done?

Here's who you would be comparing DNA with:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stewart-30737

You could join the site , then once a member private-message the James Stewart relative that runs that wiki page. You could introduce yourself and ask for any info on James Stewart.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stewart-29510

It would be interesting to see if they had some sources for James being born in Caputh to a Robert and marrying an Anderson etc. I'm quite sure at least one of Jame's kids married in Caputh ... Will recheck that and report.

Let me know if you have ancestry DNA or similar...

William and Isobel also had a son named Peter that the wikitree site does not mention:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stewart-30742

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STEWART
   
PETER
   
WILLIAM STEWART/ISABEL DOWE
   
M
23/07/1809
330/
10 179
Auchtergaven

Auchtergaven:  https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=56.49615&lon=-3.55079&layers=5&b=1

William was born in Clunie and later had his child Janet there in . Then had Christian later in 1807.

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STEWART
   
CHRISTIAN
   
WILLM. STEWART/ISABEL DOW
   
F
04/07/1807
339/
10 341
Clunie



Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Stewarts of Perthshire - Clunie, Caputh, 1700s
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 05 December 21 02:32 GMT (UK) »
That’s fantastic. My sister has hers done. She uploaded it on WikiTree to William born 1770.will absolutely follow all this up. Thank you again.

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Re: Stewarts of Perthshire - Clunie, Caputh, 1700s
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 05 December 21 02:49 GMT (UK) »
It looks like Janet 1798 might have died in Caputh...

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STEWART
   
JANET
67
DOW
1867
337/ 32
Caputh
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.


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Re: Stewarts of Perthshire - Clunie, Caputh, 1700s
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 05 December 21 02:51 GMT (UK) »
Not sure that Janet is your relative, just a guess due to mother Dow and the dates.

I see there is an Isabella as well , born 1806

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STEWART
   
ISABELLA
73
DOW
1881
337/ 3
Caputh
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Stewarts of Perthshire - Clunie, Caputh, 1700s
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 05 December 21 03:18 GMT (UK) »
Hold the phone... I just discovered something potentially interesting. Not sure if you've seen this before.

There are two different William Stewarts marrying Isabel Dows.

One is in Clunie:

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STEWART
   
WILLIAM
   
ISABEL DOW/
   
08/05/1796
339/
10 363
Clunie

The other is same year different date , in Caputh

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STEWART
   
WILLIAM
   
ISOBEL DOW/
   
11/05/1796
337/
20 264
Caputh
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Wondering you have compared these two documents?

Also I noticed that a James Stewart had a daughter in Caputh in 1770 and at the same time a James Stewart had your grandpa William in Clunie...

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STEWART
   
WILLIAM
   
JAS. STEWART/
   
M
26/07/1770
339/
10 288
Clunie

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STEWART
   
MARGARET
   
JAMES STEWART/
   
F
12/02/1770
337/
20 102
Caputh
Stewart. Scott. Bruce. McPherson. McMurray. McKibbin . McKay. McCann. Mckrinkine. McClewnan. McCallum. Joss. Ross. Morrison. Chapman. Middlemiss. Robinson. Conlon. Duffy. Dalgarno. Crookshank. Gammack. Ramsay. Mutch. Crawford. Orr. Galbraith. Kerr. Fergusson. Campbell.

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Re: Stewarts of Perthshire - Clunie, Caputh, 1700s
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 05 December 21 07:46 GMT (UK) »
My brain may explode Alan:)  The WikiTree site Stewart-30737 is my older sister, who is undoubtedly wondering why I have just asked her to upload her DNA to her own profile (which she has already done). I can only plead that I just got in from a stirring performance of Handel's Messiah.
I also have a profile there Stewart-30742 and of course we share the same family tree on WikiTree as their rule is one profile per person. I was so frustrated with what I considered to be her abysmal referencing (not that mine is much better) that I started my own.
Our William's WikiTree profile is https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stewart-30742. I have just added your information about Janet's possible death on the research notes for Janet.
Not only is there a William Stewart and Isabel Dow in Clunie and Caputh, there is also a William Stewart born 1770 in Auchtergaven, whom I suspect is the father of the Peter Stewart born 1809. Here is another huge mystery. My Gt Gt Gt (?) grandfather William Stewart born 1817 appears to have been born 10 years after the others (discounting Peter in 1809).  What a tangle.

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Re: Stewarts of Perthshire - Clunie, Caputh, 1700s
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 05 December 21 07:51 GMT (UK) »
Re: STEWART
   
WILLIAM
   
ISOBEL DOW/
   
11/05/1796
337/
20 264
Caputh
Quote. I did compare the two documents closely. The banns were read in Caputh on the 8th (Isabella is from there) and the marriage took place on Clunie on the 11th.

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Re: Stewarts of Perthshire - Clunie, Caputh, 1700s
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 05 December 21 07:56 GMT (UK) »
from the profile of William Stewart b. 1770 WikiTree profile [[Stewart-30742|William Stewart (bef.1770-bef.1863)]]
William Stewart married Isobel Dow [[Dow-2312|Isabella (Dow) Stewart (abt.1776-bef.1864)]] on 11 May 1796 in the parish of Clunie,  Perthshire, Scotland, following the publication of the banns in Caputh Parish on 8 May 1796. <ref>Clunie Parish Register STEWART WILLIAM/ ISOBEL DOW/ Ref 339/ 138;
Caputh Parish Register STEWART WILLIAM/ ISOBEL DOW/ 8/05/1796
Ref 337/20 264 Caputh</ref>