Seeking Info On James Dalgarno Who Married Margaret Ramsay @ Old Deer 24/09/1784

[Alan of Kaslo]

DALGARNO       James       Head       M       M       62       Labourer        Aberdeenshire - Cruden           
 DALGARNO       Sophia       Wife       M       F       62       Labourers Wife        Aberdeenshire - Peterhead           
 DALGARNO       Margt.       Daur       U       F       30       Hoeing Of Other Outside Work        Aberdeenshire - Peterhead           
 DALGARNO       George       Grnson       -       M    2 Infant        Aberdeenshire - Peterhead           
GREIG       Keith       Lodger       U       M       20       Labourer        Aberdeenshire - Longside   

1851 census in Peterhead finds the James D jr family (including my grandmother Margaret). Here they say that James D jr. was born in Cruden.

Also in 1861 census:

DALGARNO    James    Father    W    M    73    Agric Labourer    Aberdeenshire    Cruden

[Forfarian]

That certainly matches what the baptism record says.

[Alan of Kaslo]

I found a reference to a John Sangster 1749 Milne of Skelmuir:

Transcription: May 12th John Sangster in Milne of Skelmuir had a Child Born of his Spouse Jannet Pirie & Baptized

It gets listed as Old Deer also.

SANGSTER
   
JOHN
   
JOHN SANGSTER/JANNET PIRIE
M
14/05/1749
228/
10 38
Old Deer

Not sure how far Burntbrae is from Skelmuir

[Alan of Kaslo]

Side-note:

I found a tidbit about a James Dalgarno who lived at Skelmuir and found ancient artifacts... The Doctor they mention Longmuir lived 1803-1884. James died in 1863. The earlier doc does say John Dalgarno Skelmuir though...

https://books.google.ca/books?id=_-U-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA350&lpg=PA350&dq=skelmuir+dalgarno&source=bl&ots=BMZSxtKX9Q&sig=ACfU3U1F6QIUL6bnljm6BusWSn8BTkMUdQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXsPLhqb70AhVFJTQIHZMVCdsQ6AF6BAghEAM#v=onepage&q&f=true

[Forfarian]

I found a reference to a John Sangster 1749 Milne of Skelmuir

That might be the baptism of the one who was a witness at the baptisms of May and James in 1785 and 1787.

It gets listed as Old Deer also.

It would be, because that's the parish it is in.

Not sure ho far Burntbrae is from Skelmuir.

About four kilometres as the crow flies.

There's a map here https://maps.nls.uk/view/74400157 showing all the parish boundaries. Plus Clochcan, Bruntbrae, Skelmuir, and Earlseat, which is only just inside the parish of Cruden.

[Alan of Kaslo]

Anyhow, I'm happy with what i've learned so far on my Dalgarno side...It wasn't easy. My grandmother Margaret Dalgarno had my grandfather James Mutch out of wedlock ...It took a long time to piece everything together. James was raised with someone else (a crofter)...Margaret lived with her parents Sophia Crookshank and James Dalgarno. I found them in census in Aughtygall...then later at the family home at 3 Windmill st. Peterhead.  I found out about Margeret Ramsay and James D sr. and got a couple docs likevtheir wedding, James jr's baptism etc...but that's as far as I have made it so far...way further then I thought I would.

Eventually I'll figure out who James D sr's parents are...and Margaret Ramsay. Best not to rush research like this.

[Alan of Kaslo]

Found this but haven't purchased it quite yet...

DALGARNS
   
MARGARET
   
SANGSTER / JOHN DALGARNS
   
80
F
11/01/1817
218/
20 240
Longside

Seems to correspond to this birth of a Margaret Sangster in 1737...

SANGSTER
   
MARGARET
   
JOHN SANGSTER/JANNET PIRIE
   
F
06/09/1737
228/
10 11
Old Deer

So John Sangster of Skelmuir that I mentioned earlier...that was the son of John Sangster and Jannet Pirie... is the younger brother of Margaret... (still not sure this would be my kin)

[Alan of Kaslo]

Another document from the "forgot I had that" department ...

It's the death of John Dalgarno who married Margaret Sangster. It also mentions Kinmundy (gets mentioned in the 1757 birth of James D posted earlier),  which I assume is close to Skelmuir etc...

DALGARNO
   
JOHN
   
MARGT SANGSTER
   
92
M
30/03/1819
218/
20 245
Longside

N. Kinmundy I believe standes for Nether Kinmundy..

Seems to be where John Dalgarno was born.

[Forfarian]

Looks good.

There are several places in Aberdeenshire called Kinmundy, including one in the parish of Old Deer
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NK0043

However this is, as you say, Nether Kinmundy, and the records are from the parish of Longside, so it will be this one
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NK0443