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Re: Bowles/Murless families
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 28 November 21 21:35 GMT (UK) »
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« Reply #55 on: Sunday 28 November 21 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Re the 1908 marriage and the NSW Guardian of Minors giving permission for the 17 year old to marry a 50 year old.   That NSW official was basically breaching his then duty of care if he accepted the word of the minor re her parentage.  He was required to carry out his own enquiries.

1899 Marriage Act ...
 In the case of Minors.
9. .....
(a) of the written consent of the father of such party if within New South Wales or if not within New South Wales then of a guardian appointed by the father or
(b) if there be no such guardian in New South Wales then the written consent of the mother of such party if within New South Wales or
(c) where there is no such parent or guardian in New South Wales or he or she is incapable of duly consenting by reason of distance habitual intoxication or mental incapacity then the written consent of some justice of the peace appointed for that purpose. Such justice shall make inquiry on oath as to the facts and circumstances of the case before giving his consent. [/color][/b]
10. (1) For the purposes mentioned in the foregoing section the Judges of the Supreme Court shall appoint from time to time one or more justice or justices of the peace in every registrar's district who shall by virtue of such appointment give consent in such cases as
aforesaid.
 
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11. When a marriage is celebrated upon the production of any such written consent as aforesaid a statement of the fact of such consent shall be indorsed on the certificate of such marriage and on the copy thereof signed respectively by the minister or registrar celebrating the same.


Edith was still being let down by the system !

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Re: Bowles/Murless families
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 28 November 21 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Although Harry MURLESS had married Jean CAMERON in 1902, it looks to me that the relationship was inconsistently maintained.  They were at separate addresses in Western Australia on the Electoral roll.

Harry was charged  at a brothel in 1905
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/32747445/4132718

From about 1900 to 1903 Harry seems to have been involved in mining.
In 1903 he took up boxing and there are many references in the papers.

This early one has him as resident of Qld
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/211099875

After the 1911 Smethurst business, Jean was probably estranged from Harry.

She was happy to give evidence against him in this assault case in 1917. It is stated they do not live together
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5569876
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/95451968

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« Reply #57 on: Sunday 28 November 21 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Here is Edith's death notice in case you do not have it.
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Re: Bowles/Murless families
« Reply #58 on: Sunday 28 November 21 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Re the 1908 marriage and the NSW Guardian of Minors giving permission for the 17 year old to marry a 50 year old.   That NSW official was basically breaching his then duty of care if he accepted the word of the minor re her parentage.  He was required to carry out his own enquiries.

Oh wow, that is quite sad :((

Although Harry MURLESS had married Jean CAMERON in 1902, it looks to me that the relationship was inconsistently maintained.  They were at separate addresses in Western Australia on the Electoral roll.

If that is all the same Henry/Harry it looks like he definitely got around.

Here is Edith's death notice in case you do not have it.


I didn't have this info, thankyou!

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Re: Bowles/Murless families
« Reply #59 on: Sunday 28 November 21 23:50 GMT (UK) »
I ended up getting the marriage certificate between Bertha and her husband and found no new info unfortunately.

EDIT: His job may be of interest? Does that say Mine Manager?
This is from 1913 - Murless and Shadwell

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« Reply #60 on: Monday 29 November 21 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Are there witnesses to the marriage?

Henry as "mine manager" is a significant item.
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Re: Bowles/Murless families
« Reply #61 on: Monday 29 November 21 00:16 GMT (UK) »
These are the witnesses to the marriage in this image:

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« Reply #62 on: Monday 29 November 21 00:42 GMT (UK) »
Are there witnesses to the marriage?

Henry as "mine manager" is a significant item.


Yes, as we know, mining was one of the things Henry did ;)

A couple of news bits
Miner and publican in 1897. WA

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/259393586

Experienced miner. 1900
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/23835178

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