Bowles/Murless families

[sparrett]

Yes, he is certainly the husband of Jean, the hotel licensee.

This couple covered many Australian States in their busy lifetimes.
Sue

[majm]

Hi, 

I am wondering if the surname for the 1858 birth in Bathurst NSW ought to be BOWLER rather than BOWLES.   Here is a live link to an index of surnames for the Pioneer families from Bathurst and surrounds.  https://www.bathurstfhg.asn.au/bathurst-pioneers/index-of-surnames/ 

https://www.bathurstfhg.asn.au/bathurst-pioneers/   

JM

Thankyou everyone who for their help so far!! I am going to list out all the info I have on them.
'......
HISTORICAL BIRTH IMAGE: EDITH EMILY
Where and where born - 24th April 1890, Hlugh St Adavale (*Difficult to read, could be hlush st
Father - (Name) Harry Murless (Occupation)Labourer (Age) 23yrs (Birthplace) Adelaide, SA
When and where married - Illegitimate
Mother - (Name) Sophia Bowles (Age) 32 yrs (Birthplace) Bathurst N.S.W
Informant - Certified to in writing by Harry Murless, Father, Adavale
Witness - Mr O'Keeffe
.....

[Neale1961]

I am wondering if the surname for the 1858 birth in Bathurst NSW ought to be BOWLER rather than BOWLES. 

JM, I was also wondering about BOYLE.

[sparrett]

I wonder if wendish001 could use the snipping tool to capture and post that little section with the surname of Ellen/Sophia.

It may be worth some scrutiny.

Sue

[majm]

yes, that's also possible and logical Neale.

There were four or five petitions (or contra-petitions) for Bathurst township in the late 1850s and into 1860s re becoming incorporated as a municipality.  Also Bathurst and surrounds was its own Police District in that era.

Trove limiting searches to NSW Govt Gazette
Bathurst Police District : 25 Nov 1858,
 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/229602711/12611083

Bathurst Municipality Petitions: 

(I think this is the first one) 30 Dec 1858
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/229603452  two pages of names.

4 Jan 1859 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/228714028 three pages, 2 are names!

18 Jan 1859 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/228714325  3000 inhabitants

12 March1859 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/228715723 more names, this time countering the earlier petition. 

28 Sept 1859 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/228601830 probably countering the counter petition

It was not uncommon for the petitions to include signatures of females.

JM

[majm]

I wonder if wendish001 could use the snipping tool to capture and post that little section with the surname of Ellen/Sophia.

It may be worth some scrutiny.

Sue

Yes,  Excellent thought.

[majm]

females signing Bathurst petitions... perhaps their nee surnames or perhaps their known by surnames or perhaps their formal married surnames... but it can be a worthwhile search if looking for females in the gold rush years in regional NSW....

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/228604289  29 December 1859.
See there's Sophia WYNDRED, and Mary BUDD and Bridget HUGHES and Ellen HILL and so on ....

JM

[Neale1961]

I wonder if wendish001 could use the snipping tool to capture and post that little section with the surname of Ellen/Sophia.

It may be worth some scrutiny.

Sue

Agreed.
Also what details are on Bertha’s marriage cert. and who are witnesses.
On Edith’s marriage the mother is recorded just as Ellen Sophia -   No surname, almost as if it was unknown.

[majm]

Ellen/Sophia without a maiden surname - umm.... I have not re-read thread at the minute, but it may mean that the informant was NOT asked for it, or had overlooked providing it, or if it was a South Australian record, that it was perhaps NOT a requirement of the civil registration process at that time...   

http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

JM