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Singer Ruby Murray
« on: Tuesday 23 November 21 13:06 GMT (UK) »
Hello Everyone,

I expect most of you will have heard the phrase, "going for a Ruby Murray", ie Curry.  The 50's Northern Irish singer who had many hit records was born Ruby Florence Murray in Belfast in 1935. There is a family rumour she is related to the family via the McIlroy name but I have no proof of this.

Her father may have been Dan Murray and mother Winnie Connolly, but again no proof of this.

Does anybody know where to start researching as I can find nothing online.

Many thanks in anticipation
Sue   :)
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Re: Singer Ruby Murray
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 13:15 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Singer Ruby Murray
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 13:16 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Singer Ruby Murray
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 13:21 GMT (UK) »
Ooh, thank-you Shaun (and Carole), I'd missed that one.

I will read and absorb.

Many thanks
Sue
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Re: Singer Ruby Murray
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 13:34 GMT (UK) »
Well, this is interesting, the tree gives Ruby's paternal grandmother as Mary Jane McKinley (1870-1954), my own Great-grandmother was called Sarah Jane McKinley (1858-1918) both born in Belfast.  Is there any way of linking these two ladies? I haven't been able to get back any further for Sarah by the way.

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Re: Singer Ruby Murray
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 13:50 GMT (UK) »
Does the tree show Mary Jane McKinley’s parentage & her siblings?

Presume you have Sarah’s father from her marriage cert so how does it compare?
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Re: Singer Ruby Murray
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 14:03 GMT (UK) »
No sorry, I don't have a marriage certificate and wouldn't know where to find one. She married Samuel Walker McIlroy in Belfast around 1888 (taken from 1901 census). I only know her maiden name from family.

And the tree doesn't show any family for Mary Jane McKinley either.

Sue

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Re: Singer Ruby Murray
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 15:40 GMT (UK) »
In my Google searches, I found a piece that said her father was Scottish and her mother was Irish. This doesn't fit with the tree. 

I can't find the reference though.

Google and obituaries give information about her marriages and children.
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Re: Singer Ruby Murray
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 15:48 GMT (UK) »
She married Bernard Burgess in Blackpool in 1957 - 2 children still living.  (You can find them via Google)

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