Singer Ruby Murray

[CaroleW]

You say Sarah Jane McKinley was b 1858 but the 1901 entry shows her as 37 giving a birth year of approx 1863.  Living in Down in 1901 but born Antrim

[Rena]

Wikipedia also has a piece about Ruby Murray too:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Murray

[bagpuss]

Thanks Rena

Carole - I don't know where I got the 1858 birth year to be honest. I've been trolling the Irish databases but the information is a bit scant. I'll check up.

Thank-you
Sue

[CaroleW]

In 1911, Samuel McIlroy & children David & Maggie are in lodgings & Samuel is shown as married - 33yrs.  Both censuses are for Co Down

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002181591/

This is the 1901 entry

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000720970/

[MonicaL]

This looks to be the 1899 marriage in Belfast for John Murray and Mary Jane McKinley, showing as grandparents to Ruby on the a/try family tree link https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10368/5774571.pdf

Likely birth entry for Mary Jane McKinley in Ballymoney Antrim in 1870 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03326/2219106.pdf

Monica

[MonicaL]

...I don't know where I got the 1858 birth year to be honest. I've been trolling the Irish databases but the information is a bit scant. I'll check up.

From the burial index, Sarah Jane's birth year shows as c. 1858:

Sarah Jane McIlroy, age 60, 51 Lisburn Rd
Death Date 21 Nov 1918 and Burial Date 23 Nov 1918
Cemetery Section N2 82, City Cemetery, Belfast

Husband Samuel died on 4 Oct 1925 and buried a few dates later on the 7th with Sarah Jane. His age at death is given as 67.

Monica

[bagpuss]

Yes Carole, that is my McIlroy family in 1901 and 1911, although I don't know where Sarah Jane McIlroy was in 1911.


And thanks also Monica for those entries, I knew the birth date of 1858 must have come from somewhere. I will pursue these new lines of research now I know Mary Janes father's name is Archibald McIlroy.

I very much appreciate all your efforts.

Sue   

[aghadowey]

Yes Carole, that is my McIlroy family in 1901 and 1911, although I don't know where Sarah Jane McIlroy was in 1911.
And thanks also Monica for those entries, I knew the birth date of 1858 must have come from somewhere. I will pursue these new lines of research now I know Mary Janes father's name is Archibald McIlroy.

Mary Jane's father was Archibald McKinley.

Possible entry for Sarah Jane McIlroy in 1911? lthough not all details match 1901 census-
Mc I;   S J; Lisburn Road; St. George's; Antrim; age 47; born Co Tyrone; Housekeeper; Church of Ireland; literacy-No; Married; married 28yers; 9 children, 6 living.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__George_s/Lisburn_Road/155677/

[aghadowey]

She married Samuel Walker McIlroy in Belfast around 1888 (taken from 1901 census)

1901 census doesn't give number of years married.

Children I found, so far-
Elizabeth 26 Sept.1889
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02456/1912580.pdf  (54 Wall St.)
David 5 Aug.1891
Geraldine Oct.1893-18 Sept.1894
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02285/1857707.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05960/4694002.pdf  (3 Marion St.)
Samuel Walker (1897)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02109/1802968.pdf  (33 Ribble St.)

Added- burial record for Geraldine- parents & stillborn child (1895) in same plot-
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=6353.8341