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Chertsey house records
« on: Sunday 21 November 21 22:04 GMT (UK) »
I was wondering if there are any records available to get an understanding of what circumstances my g.g. parents lived in 1891. They lived with their daughter, Anne, and died in 1892 and 1893. That is, who owned the home? I doubt that they did. And, what was the home and area like? Etc.
The address was: #2 Rose Cottages, 3 Laburnum Road, Chertsey.   

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Re: Chertsey house records
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 November 21 02:37 GMT (UK) »
Have you had a look at the road on Google street view?

The houses are quite small terraces, and much of Laburnum Road is facing the railway line, so it was probably a working class area in 1891.

If you follow the enumerator’s route in the 1891 census, you might be able to work out which end of Laburnum Road number 3 was. I’m not sure what #2 Rose Cottages would infer …. Can you give us their names so we can have a look for ourselves?  I wonder if the #2 might refer to something else like number of schedule.

You can have a look at Number 3 on Google maps, but numbering could have changed since 1891, so it might be an idea to follow the enumerator to confirm.

Here is a side by side map which may give you a feel for the area:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17.767086750545207&lat=51.38495&lon=-0.50442&layers=168&right=ESRIWorld

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Re: Chertsey house records
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 November 21 08:24 GMT (UK) »
Joseph and Mary Ann Wickens were listed as being resident at that address in 1891 along with several other households having the same address. 

I do wonder if some of them should have been entered as a different building ie No 1 Rose Cottages  :-\.  Looking at online maps there is a terrace of 6 with a 'place for a name' on the wall at first floor level which would tie in with houses 2 - 6 if listed correctly.

This is a property in the row I am referring to    
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Re: Chertsey house records
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 November 21 09:23 GMT (UK) »
There is only Joseph, Mary Ann and their daughter in the property, it is clearly indicated by the double // between the families, if the others were in the same house there would only be a single / between them. The Enumerator has failed to note the numbers of the other properties.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: Chertsey house records
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 November 21 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your information. I take it as a row house of 6 units, #2 being my ancestors.
What kind of a city was it in 1890? You mention working class, as I would have guessed, as opposed to Horsell, called posh, where they lived earlier and he worked, and I suspect was given shelter as part of his income (RG 11, 771, p. 8).
I know nothing of Ann other than she was born in 1836 in Aldermaston where Joseph worked. I wonder if she would shed any light on the subject of general knowledge.
(P. 8 keeps having a smiling face erase it)

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Re: Chertsey house records
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 November 21 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Chertsey today is a small town, local shops and food supermarkets.  Horsell in the 1800s would have been a small village, today it merges into Woking and a large housing estate (Goldsworth Park).  I would not call Horsell posh, though I did grow up there.  :)
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Re: Chertsey house records
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 November 21 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Possible death for Ann Wickens born 1836 age 79

buried 15 Apr 1915 Chertsey St Peter Surrey

her abode was Chertsey Union Infirmary
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
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Re: Chertsey house records
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 November 21 18:40 GMT (UK) »
That has to be Ann. Her burial spot is with her parents. The unmarried part of her makes we wonder why, as if caused by occupation or divorce or just what. Finding where she lived earlier is the problem. These people never stayed very long in one place, unlike my mother's side which we traced back to the mid-1500s. Until the digital age, her family disappeared after 1860.

As for Horsell in the 1880s and generation afterward, posh is an English term I have read describing it. I don't have any ancestors who ever lived in an area like it that then, so I summarized from these descriptions when Joseph and Mary Ann lived there.

Then it contained those beginnings with its stately homes. The town abounds with parks, cricket and squash clubs, and golf courses.

If this description of the 1880-90s is wrong, please correct me. I suspect strongly that Joseph worked for one of those stately homes based on his previous manor house experiences.

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Re: Chertsey house records
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 November 21 18:50 GMT (UK) »
Millipede: what do you mean by " abode"? Is that where she died? And, do you think that it was a place for indigent people or those who could afford care?