Wishaw Relief Church Records

[goldnplomp]

Hello,

I am attempting to find marriage and death records for Mary HALLIDAY b. 1815.  Mary HALLIDAY married George GOLD b.1814 d.1858 in about 1841 and Mary's death was between 1853 and 1856.  I was able to find birth records for all of their children in the Wishaw Relief Church Baptismal Register 1831-1864 (NAS CH3/1219/6) and I am wondering if anyone knows if the Wishaw Relieve Church kept any Marriage or Death records.

Thank you for your time.

Art

[GR2]

The catalogue of the National Archives of Scotland does not show any marriage records for the church. The only deaths are for 1835-1846 - CH3/1219/2.

CH3/1219/2 also contains the minutes for 1826-1847. It is not impossible that there is a reference to a marriage there, if Mary were expecting a child before her marriage.

[goldnplomp]

Thank you for the insight GR2.   

George's father, Andrew GOLD b.1970 d.1857 is listed throughout the Minutes of Committee to Raise Funds for the Building of the Church 1822-1824 (NAS CH3/1219/1) When viewing the minutes, I noticed that within the minutes there were 4-5 baptismal records on Pg14 so as you say it is not impossible that there is a reference to a marriage in the subsequent minutes.  Perhaps NAS CH3/1219/2 holds the key to the Marry HALLIDAY puzzle.

Thanks again!

Art

[Lodger]

According to Diane Baptie's excellent "Registers of the Secession Churches in Scotland",
Wishaw Relief church CH3 1219/2 Deaths 1835 - 1846. Also CH3 1219/3 Births 1831 -1864.

Sad to see this beautiful church building now closed for ever and being used by a funeral director!

[Lodger]

Andrew Gold, "mason at Cam'nethan Kirk", was a founder member of Wishawtown Relief Church in 1822 and was one of 4 men appointed to "draw out specifications, in order to ascertain the expense, and that said gentlemen should meet for this purpose next day".  This would have taken place sometime in September 1822 when the land (1 acre of ground) had just been purchased. Andrew was one of the original fourteen local men who formed the working committee to oversee the building of the church.
The church (or Meeting House) was opened for worship 3rd August 1823 at a cost of £528. 19. 10.

The first minister appointed was the Rev John MacIntyre was took up his ministry in 1825 and died 5 years later. The next minister was Rev Peter Brown who was minister there from 1831 until 1863 when he left to take up a charge at Melbourne, Australia.
If any of your Gold or Halliday ancestors were married or baptised at Wishaw Relief Church between 1831 and 1863 Peter Brown would have been the celebrant.

Here is is -

[Lodger]

"Mason at Cam'nethan Kirk" would have refered to Andrew's abode. He was a stonemason and lived in the village adjacent to "Cam'nethan kirk" or, in proper English, Cambusnethan Church. The name "Cam'nethan" is still used by local residents today. It is very confusing when there is a village or town set within a parish of the same name.

[Lodger]

I can't say when Mary Halliday died but, if she and her husband lived in the Wishaw area they would probably have been interred in the very large plot owned by the Gold family in Cambusnethan old churchyard.
There are 3 headstones on this plot but the late Victorian records indicate that there were actually two plots. However, my guess is, this was just one "giant" plot and the cemetery authorities who took over the running of the churchyard in the 1870's, weren't too sure how many compartments were in that particular piece of ground. (Cambusnethan used the descriptions "North", "South" and "Centre" to distinguish where in the plot each corpse was interred, different terminations were used by other parishes, Avondale for example, used "buried in the 1", "buried in the 2" and so on.

Unfortunately in the case of the Cambusnethan burials, written records for the churchyard were not recorded until about 1875, these records are augmented by records of daily interments in the Day Book for the adjoining municipal cemetery.

So, here's what the Victorians have to tell us about the Gold family plot.
first of all, the owner of both plots was Andrew Gold.

In the South compartment -  (all dates are of interment)
ROBERT MUIR, aged 66 years. 16th February 1888.
REBECCA MUIR, aged 74 years. 9th January 1892.
JOHN MILLER, aged 33 years. 1st November 1879.
A. GOLD MUIR, aged 9 months. 26th January 1880.
REBECCA MILLER, aged 39 years. 18th October 1886.

In the Centre compartment -
CATHERINE GOLD, aged 55 years. 13th October 1889.
ANDREW GOLD, aged 61 years. 14th November 1898.
JOHN M. GOLD, aged 22 years. 2nd September 1895.
 - - - - -  GOLD, no age given. 4th August 1900.

To add to the list are the following entries from the gravediggers Day Book.

STILLBORN FEMALE MUIR, Cambusnethan.
Parents - Robert Muir & Rebecca Gold.
Interred in the old churchyard, 1st April 1863.

REBECCA GOLD, Cambusnethan. Aged 77 years. Widow.
Parents - George Kilpatrick, no mother's name given.
Interred in the old churchyard, 25th July 1867.

GEORGE JAMES GOLD, Braidwood. Aged 3 years & 9 months.
Parents - Andrew Gold & Catherine Oman.
Interred in the old churchyard, 13th February 1875.

BELLA M.M. GOLD, Carluke. Aged 8 years.
Parents - Andrew Gold & Catherine M. Oman.
Interred in the old churchyard, 17th January 1878.

 

[Lodger]

Of the 3 headstones on this plot, I have pictures of 2 and the transcriptions from all three.

The first stone has the inscription (very worn and the lower part is undecipherable) -

"Erected by Andrew Gold in memory of his mother Isabella Morton who died 11th June 1840 aged 27 years. His father Andrew died July 1844" .................. (rest worn).

Second stone -

"Andrew Gold died at Westfield, Carluke 11th November 1898 aged 61 years. His wife Catherine Millar Oman died at Westfield, Carluke 8th October 1891. Son George James and daughter Bella Millar Morton died in infancy. Son John died 29th August 1895 aged 22 years. Eldest son Andrew died at Gibraltar 14th November 1899 aged 32 years".

Third stone -

"Andrew Gold died 11th November 1857 aged 67 years. His wife Rebecca Kilpatrick died at Cambusnethan 23rd July 1867 aged 77 years. Elizabeth Weir died 8th January 1823 aged 74 years. John Millar died 30th October 1879 aged 36 years (his wife Rebecca Kilpatrick Muir died 15th October 1886 aged 39 years). His son-in-law Robert Muir ....(worn) .... aged 62 years" ........... rest of stone worn.

These transcriptions were done in 1982 and were hand-written, then typed on an old Remington. The actual wording my appear different on the stones. The relationships are always to the first person on the stone.

[Lodger]

Pictures of 2 of the stones on the Gold family plot.