Author Topic: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire  (Read 2066 times)

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Re: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 November 21 15:29 GMT (UK) »
It has to be ‘my’ Mary that I’ve been searching for.

The death date is exact.

The fact that Patrick Cosgrove has been buried there too increases the odds somewhat!

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Re: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 November 21 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Davie.

I have received your email containing the pics. Really grateful to you for taking the time to take them for me.

To be honest though, it’s left me more confused and doubting whether this is the Mary Cosgrove I am looking for.

Although my Mary Cosgrove died 10 October, she died in 1903 and this does tally with the interment register I got for St Peter’s, Dalbeth.

I was unsure as to whether the gravestone gives the right death year of 1903 as in the picture appears to maybe be 1962?

Additionally, I have also not come across anything else in terms if document in which she has the F middle initial. But her maiden name was Fairly.

Furthermore, my Mary Cosgrove’s death certificate states that she died in 1903 aged 65. However, the age of Mary on the headstone is 70.

However, the same interment register lists a Patrick Cosgrove as being in the same plot (and this was the name of her husband). He died in 1914 which also correlated with the same interment records and with the same plot.

Mary died at ‘1 Pretoria Place, Cambuslang’, whilst her husband died at St Joseph’s Garngadhill a decade later but whose last known address is listed as ‘5 Pretoria Street, Cambuslang’ (presumably the same place)

On Scotlands people there’s a listing for a Mary Cosgrove, Cambuslang with the maiden name Quinn. Now, according to ancestry, her mother was a Mary Quinn of Ireland and father Philip Fairley. But I’ve not been able to find anything relating to these two.

So there are some aspects that make me believe it must be her but others where I am not so sure…

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Re: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 November 21 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ant

I see what you mean. The date is definately 1903. The age could be wrong as it could depend on who registered the death. I have some certs which are 5 or 6 years out because the person registering didn't know all the correct details as they weren't close family as such.
Also with Anc**** I always take those records with some salt. I could show you lots of records which are way out, but people on Anc*** swear they are right. When you ask for hard proof ie paper record they don't have any. Treat ALL you find on Anc*** with some caution.
Have you tried https://www.irishgenealogy.ie for records of Fairley/Quinn. On ScotlandsPeople 1901 census there is one Mary Cosgrove, 61, Cambuslang, living with James, 61, James,39 and Patrick, 26, according to the index. I dont have any credits to check full details. Do these names ring bells?
Dempster - Glasgow, Muirkirk, Sorn, Ayrshire
McIntyre - Glasgow, Campsie
Hinde - Glasgow, Wolverhampton
McLintock - Glasgow, Kilmarnock,
McGlade - Rutherglen, Ireland
Kettlewell - Yorkshire

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Re: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 November 21 11:38 GMT (UK) »
It’s one of those scenarios where you start doubting whether the research you’ve done so far is correct. And then if not, what is that missing link I’ve not been able to identify.

But I’ve gone over and over it with a fine tooth comb and it keeps leading me back to the same place, so it has to be them.

I have looked at the Irish site you linked. But as it’s a subscription only site, I’ll need to wait for a while as I don’t want to pay for different ones at the same time. Ancestry is an expensive business!

My research usually comes to a standstill with Mary and Patrick though once it goes into Irish territory.

I am led to believe that Mary’s husband Patrick’s father was a gentleman called Peter Cosgrove (various spellings of Peter - Petrus, Petri for example). He supposedly married an Ann/Anne/Anna Ward.

 I have found a possible marriage record - January 11, 1835 Templemichael, County Longford, Ireland.

If the death records I have located for both Ann and Peter are correct (1861 and 1878 respectively), Ann died at 40 whilst Peter was around 70. Peter died at Lanark hospital but does not include a NOK or wife on the certificate. I can only assume his life spiralled downwards after Ann’s death. (If I have the right people at all!)


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Re: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 20 November 21 12:32 GMT (UK) »
I have looked at the Irish site you linked. But as it’s a subscription only site
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ is completely free of charge.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 20 November 21 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Ah, thank you.

Not sure what site I was thinking of then. It has been a pay per search one.


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Re: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 20 November 21 12:53 GMT (UK) »
Not sure what site I was thinking of then. It has been a pay per search one.
Roots Ireland https://www.rootsireland.ie/ is maybe the one you were thinking of? I know you have to pay for it but don't know whether it's subscription or pay-per-view.

Scotland's People used to be pay-per-search but searching is now free and it's only pay-per-view.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Sharon came back to me confirming the following:

Section 15 Lair Number 671
 
The owner of the lair is James Cosgrove.
 
Interred in this lair is:-
 
12th October 1903 – Mary Cosgrove – mother of the lair owner
23rd July 1914 – Patrick Cosgrove – father of the lair owner
20th April 1929 – John Cosgrove – Brother of the lair owner
28th May 1934 – James Cosgrove – Owner
15th June 1937 – James Cosgrove – Son of the lair owner

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Re: Patrick and Mary Cosgrove, Dalbeth St Peter, Lanarkshire
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 24 November 21 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Thought she would. Does that tie in with your research then. Are those names you expected to see?
Dempster - Glasgow, Muirkirk, Sorn, Ayrshire
McIntyre - Glasgow, Campsie
Hinde - Glasgow, Wolverhampton
McLintock - Glasgow, Kilmarnock,
McGlade - Rutherglen, Ireland
Kettlewell - Yorkshire