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Re: Wearhead family in Weardale, Cherry Tree House
« Reply #27 on: Friday 10 December 21 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Ha!  I just replaced my kitchen sink, disposal and faucet....  replaced my 48 year old one.   Now i just took out my old tub shower combination, and will put in a 3x6 foot shower with 4 inch stepover.  Then replace carpet with tile. 

But genealogy is fun and relaxing.  Imagining what my weardale ancestors did back in the 17 and 1800's.  Also what the countryside looked like.  I joined two Facebook weardale sites.

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Re: Wearhead family in Weardale, Cherry Tree House
« Reply #28 on: Friday 10 December 21 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Ha!  I just replaced my kitchen sink, disposal and faucet....  replaced my 48 year old one.   Now i just took out my old tub shower combination, and will put in a 3x6 foot shower with 4 inch stepover.  Then replace carpet with tile. 

But genealogy is fun and relaxing.  Imagining what my weardale ancestors did back in the 17 and 1800's.  Also what the countryside looked like.  I joined two Facebook weardale sites.

DIY is fun- sometimes
Genealogy is fun- sometimes
 :D
You will see me in the 2 Weardale Facebook groups ( Old Weardale photos and Weardale family history). Also I love Weardale, but to a lesser degree. I'm Susan Hall on Facebook. Most of my posts are about the Elliott's and Stobbs'.
Weardale is beautiful. Have you looked on Google maps Street view for Broken Way and Burnfoot St John's Chapel ( Bishop Auckland)?

I notice on your Ancestry tree that the ages on the 1841 and 1851 census' don't match with the birth year of 1796 for Ann Lowes. They do match the year of baptism . Wondering where you got the year of birth from? I can't view the select baptism source record as I only have the basic membership. Does that give her birth year?
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Re: Wearhead family in Weardale, Cherry Tree House
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 14 December 21 20:56 GMT (UK) »
For the benefit of the boards, what I posted in chat:

DRO, with input father Thomas
Baptisms Durham 1813 Benjamin Wearmouth South Street
Baptisms Durham 1813 Margaret Wearmouth South Street
Baptisms Durham 1816 Ann Wearmouth South Street
Baptisms Weardale 1821 Mary Wearmouth 1821 Chester House
Baptisms Weardale 1824 Jonathan Wearmouth St.Johns Chapel
Baptisms Weardale 1826 John Wearmouth 1826 St.Johns Chapel
Baptisms Weardale 1828 Thomas Wearmouth 1828 Chesters
Baptisms Weardale 1831 Richard Wearmouth Chesters
Baptisms Weardale 1836 Jane Wearmouth Broken Way
Baptisms Weardale 1842 Ann Wearmouth Burnfoot
Baptisms Weardale 1842 Joseph Wearmouth Burnfoot
Baptisms Weardale 1842 William Wearmouth Burnfoot
Baptisms Weardale 1844 William Wearmouth Cherrytree House

For further investigation. Currently attempting to find on another source.

~ Edit- mother from Mary onwards is Ann. I don't know about first three christenings.

This riddle  has been going round and round in my head and it's driving me crazy.
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Ann Wearmouth, born 1834 at St John's Chapel near Stanhope, Durham England.  She married my GG grandfather Joseph Hodgson (born 13 Oct 1830)  on April 6, 1850, at Weardale , St John's Chapel, Durham, Eng. 

1. were people under the age of 18 allowed to marry?
2. On Ehodgson's Ancestry tree there's an obituary dated 1905 for Ann Hodgson in the USA. It states she was 84 when she died, therefore she must have been born around 1820, not 1834
3. The baptism listed above for Ann Wearmouth is 1834, so it can't be  Ann Hodgson died 1905 aged 84
4. The link to the  1941 census record posted is for an Ann Wearmouth aged 7 ie b1834, so neither is that Ann Hodgson died 1905 age 84.

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Re: Wearhead family in Weardale, Cherry Tree House
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 14 December 21 21:25 GMT (UK) »
1851 census
Wearhead
 
Joseph and Ann Hodgson age 20 and 18 - married
 John Wearmouth- son age 1
Elizabeth Hodgson - daughter age 1 month.

This must be the Ann (Wearmouth)Hodgson from the 1841 census?

Who is Ann Hodgson b1821 Durham England, died 1905  on USA aged 84 from the USA obituary .I can't quite

Are we sure that her maiden name was Wearmouth?
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Re: Wearhead family in Weardale, Cherry Tree House
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 15 December 21 00:00 GMT (UK) »
I noticed a short time ago that the 84 year age and birth year looked like an issue, maybe you are right... maybe the Ann that married Joseph, and the Ann that lives at cherry tree house, and the ann that died in ohio are not all the same.  Wearmouth is the right last name, that is what is stated in my 1920's history.  Wether her parents are Thomas or Richard, or another wearmouth must be the birth year problem   I've been busy working on my new shower and plumbing, so I haven't been able to do much on Ancestry. Thank you for hammering away at it I will try to take a look at the dates and see if maybe I made a mistake in assuming Thomas was the father

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Re: Wearhead family in Weardale, Cherry Tree House
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 15 December 21 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Here are the first pages of my history.... i have made some corrections and additions, bur for Ann Wearmouth, that is original.

John Hodgson, born bef 11 March 1759 in Weardale, Durham, England.  Died 26 Sept 1812, in Burtree, Weardale, Durham, burried St John Chapel. Married 11 Feb 1792 in Stanhope Durham, England, to a young woman whose given name was Ann Harrison, born bef 7 May 1769 in Stanhope.  She died 5 May, 1816 in Burtree, Weardale.  Burried at St John’s Chapel, as was John on 26 Sep 1812.  To this union was born 8 children.

1.  Joseph born at High Rigg, England Nov. 21, 1792.
2.  John born May 24, 1795, died 1 Sept 1855.  Emigrated to USA 1854.  Died in Carrol township, Washington Co. PA
3.  Thomas  Aug. 25, 1797
4.  William  Nov. 12, 1799
5.  Edward born at Six Days Work Farm, (Six Darg) England Oct. 10, 1802
6.  Mary born July 24, 1805
7.  Jane born Oct. 8, 1807
8.  Ann born July 20, 1811

Joseph married a young woman, 2 Aug, 1817, her given name being Esther Collingwood.  To them was born a daughter, at Burtree Ford, England, and whose name was

1.  Ann Hodgson. Aug. 28, 1817

John married Elizabeth Gardiner, born 11 May, 1800 at Earnwell, Ireshopeburn Durham Eng, on 28 July 1821 at Stanhope. They emigrated to America in 1854. John died in Carrol township PA. She died in PA USA in 1868.

1.  Edward
2.  James
3.  Mary
4.  John
5.  Elizabeth
6.  Jane

Edward 5th child of John and Ann Hodgson born Oct. 10, 1802 married in 1828 to Miss Jane Hodgson.  To this union was born 6 children, all around Burtree Ford, England.  Only two of the boys lived to see manhood, Joseph and Thomas.

l.   Joseph born Oct. 13, 1830 (moved to Canada in 1854) died 26 Dec 1880 at Ohio USA
2.  Ann born June 19, 1832 (not found in 1841 census) died 4 Aug 1832
3.  John born June 12, 1833 (not found in 1841 census) died 16 July 1833 at Green Pitts Weardale
4.  John born May 8, 1834 (no info on this child)
5.  Elizabeth born May 29, 1835 at Copt Hill, Weardale Durham Eng
6.  Thomas born Nov. 5, 1839 at Wearhead Durham Eng

These children, as near as I can find out, were all born around Burtree Ford, England.  It seems that only two of the boys lived to be men.

1. Thomas Hodgson, the youngest son of Edward Hodgson, was one of the queen's guards while he was in England, and later he went to Australia, and nothing definite was heard of him after.  Their father and mother were left alone.  In a few years the mother Jane Hodgson died.  The father then decided to come to America to his oldest son, Joseph, about the year 1865 or 1866.  He lived with him until he died, and was buried in the cemetery at West Brookfield, Ohio.

2. Joseph, the oldest son of Edward & Jane Hodgson born Oct. 13, 1830 married in 1848 to Ann Wearmouth.  They lived in and around Burtree Ford, England Joseph was a coal miner.  Of 11 children born to them, the first three children were born in England.

I.    John born Oct. 2, 1849
II.   Elizabeth born Feb. 8, 1851
III.  Edward born Sept. 28, 1852

In the year 1854 they came to America with Joseph's brother-in-law William Pattinson, wife, Mary Wearmouth. and one child Thomas Pattinson.  They came to America by a sail boat named "Cleopatra".  I often heard the mother (Ann Wearmouth), grandmother (Elizabeth Wearmouth) and aunt (Mary Wearmouth)  tell of how frightened they were when the vessel would be under water for so many seconds, and being on the water so long, their supplies were running short. They surely did not have much pleasure in their trip.  Actually records show the steam screw ship Cleopatra left Liverpool April 11, 1854. Ran into heavy storms, then ice in the St. Lawrence seaway, forcing them to port on May 5, in Portsmouth Maine. The news accounts state passengers were then sent on to their final destination. The Cleopatra finally arrived in Quebec May 24. That would be 23 days on the water.  Three weeks and two days.  While on the ship, Cleopatra, there was born to them a son, whose name was Thomas, the date of birth being May 1, 1854.  He died at sea
 
IV.   Thomas, born and died at sea 1854



V.    Joseph born Jan. 21, 1856 (in Canada)

They moved to Ohio July 22, 1856.   In 1857, they moved to Stark County, Ohio, around the section called Newman’s Creek.  Joseph worked in the coal mines in the winter and farmed in the summer.  They lived around Massillon in Stark County Ohio & West Brookfield, where Joseph died suddenly Dec. 26, 1880.  He was buried in the Brookfield cemetery.  He left a wife and five sons, and one daughter at home, three of whom were married.  His wife remained a widow until her death.  She kept the home together until all the boys were married but one, who was then living at Canal Fulton, Ohio.  From there she and her son moved to Navarre, Ohio.  The last eight months of her life she lived with her son, Joseph, being very sick all that time.  On July 27, 1905, Ann Wearmouth was called to her heavenly home, and was buried July 30 at West Brookfield, Ohio.  Six of her children were born in Ohio.

VI.   Wearmouth born 1858, died 1862
VII.  William born Sept. 14 1860
VIII. Thomas born July 13, 1861
IX.   Harrison born March 19, 1865
X.    Jonathan born no date (1867?)
XI.   Ulysses G. born Jan. 26, 1869

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Re: Wearhead family in Weardale, Cherry Tree House
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 15 December 21 00:25 GMT (UK) »
In my history, Joseph is born 1830, married 1848 and on the 1851 census, the kids are correct.  Ann is 2 years younger.  The obituary must be wrong.

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Re: Wearhead family in Weardale, Cherry Tree House
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 15 December 21 01:29 GMT (UK) »
Ok, one more thing.  I got the 1834 birth year at st johns chapel from the wearhead museum.  They sent me 4 pages of ancestors from their data base.  They also had Josrph and Ann's marriage in 1850 at weadale

Also my first assumption for Ann and Mary's family is an 1841 census  with Richard and Elizabeth as parents... children Mary age 12, Ann age 10, John age 7, Francis age 2, and a merry Crampton age 60 living with them. The residence note is frog hall in Weardale district, parish Stanhope

Page number 21, registration number HO107, folio, 308/57 . And affiliate image identifier GBC/1841/0308/0257 & PARENTID equals GBC/1841/0013032455

I found it thru damily search.

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Re: Wearhead family in Weardale, Cherry Tree House
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 15 December 21 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Wow, that's an amazing family history that someone spent the time documenting.
The Weardale museum are usually spot on with their ancestry. I'll have a look at all the info later
Seems odd that the obituary would be wrong, but of course Ann's death was before the family history was written in the 1920s.
Still , there's a difference of around 14 years between the 2 date of births and therefore her death age.
Is there a USA census record that gives her age? I can't see them on Ancestry as I don't have the correct subscription level.
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