New South Wales birth - Frank STUART

[wivenhoe]

14550/1930  STUART Frank  parents Frederick G / Elizabeth   @ Waverley

Can you please list all the information on this certificate.  Everything please.



11984/1912  STUART Frederick G parents  John / Augusta   @  Paddington  (4 Jun)

Can you please list all the information on this certificate.  Everything please.

[wivenhoe]

What certificates do you have for BDM events for the people named here, and relevant to your research.

Using NSW BDM index I am not seeing the 1908 marriage. Can you identify it please  ie  registration number. 

[wivenhoe]

Ancestry  Sydney, Australia, Anglican Parish Registers, 1814-2011

21 Oct 1901 St Peters Church Woolloomooloo
STUART Maud    spinster    b. Sydney NSW   daughter at home    19y
Res:  82 Womerah Ave Darlinghurst 
Father:  Frederick Gately STUART commercial traveller
Mother: Elizabeth Anne TURNER   

PLUMMER William Edward   bachelor  b. Berkshire England    moulder 31y
Res: 82 Womerah Ave Darlinghurst
Father: George Samuel PLUMMER (dec) painter
Mother: Sarah Jane NEWMAN (dec)

Witnesses  Arthur W PHILLIP*   May SEI*GER
Consent of father William Gately STUART is recorded but not his signature.

all named use their signature.

The Sun  13 Feb 1911 p5  (dog bites man story)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/221588834?
....Reginald Laurie STUART who lives in Womerah Avenue Darlinghurst......

NSW BDM death
28379/1961  STUART Reginald Laurie parents Frederick Gorling / Emma     @  Sydney

A  long shot.....GORLING might be best try at transcribing.....and might be variation of GATELEY...

[CarlyMaree11]

So the registration number for Frederick and Elizabeth marriage is 139/1908. I don't have the certificate and couldn't order it, I could just see on ancestry there was a marriage so I was going off that.

I had gone down the avenue of looking into Frederick Garling as that was what was coming up first when I started researching however it seems to be a different person.

I'll go get the details of the other BDM certs I have and post up now

[wivenhoe]

Using the "search by number" option, finds -

139/1908 STUART  Frederick G   marr.  TURNER  Elizabeth A   @  Sydney

[CarlyMaree11]

When I put that in to BDM it just says it's there but not available to order

[majm]

When I put that in to BDM it just says it's there but not available to order

No,  it means that they have not yet  made a pdf copy.  You can order, and they will make a pdf then.

JM

[majm]

When I put that in to BDM it just says it's there but not available to order

[sparrett]

Now with Fredericks birth record;
- informant was Annie Stuart, mother, at 160 Palmer Street, Sydney.
- siblings it just has previous issue (under marriage details) 2 boys 1 girl living. That's it.
- d.o.b is 17th March 1888
- father Frederick Stuart, age 48, occupation Hosiery manufacturer. Born England.
- mother Annie Turner, age 34. Born England.
- marriage states 1st May 1880, England.

Thanks so much for the help I really appreciate it

Previous issue means prior to this.

So there seems to be a son not described yet.
Number 1 child-Frank  1881
Number 2 child -Maud 1882
Number 4 child -Frederick (jnr) 1888

A boy is missing

I am surprised that Frederick Gately STUART is listed on the certificate of his son Frederick, as a hosiery manufacturer.  He was in fact a cordial manufacturer.

Although the spelling of his surname is not correct, it is likely to be him I think
1892
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/235966430

An earlier sighting as cordial maker at Crystal Fountain, but this time without the distinctive middle name. 1883
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/107232793

In 1879 the National Archives Australia shows the registration of a trade mark for the Crystal Fountain in the name of C. Cameron and Maurice  Lazarus.

This item a news clip for the sale of the Crystal Fountain Company from above 2 men .
Feb 1880.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13442193

The 1885 a Sands Directory listing has him at 160 Palmer Street a cordial manufacturer

Sue