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Re: St.Columba industrial school mayo
« Reply #18 on: Monday 08 November 21 00:11 GMT (UK) »
I looked at Cogaula townland on 1901 census. Several households had members with surnames Kirby, Malley/OMalley and Murry.
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Re: St.Columba industrial school mayo
« Reply #19 on: Monday 08 November 21 01:02 GMT (UK) »
  i see there is a Headstone for Mary Kirby and her husband online  which is quite large, i imagine from this they were not poor.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149162922/mary-kirby
Mary Kirby died 1892 + her husband + daughter Catherine Browne. Catherine's age transcribed as 24.
I can decipher only the first 2 names + at the foot,  the names of the people who caused it to be erected.
           "In loving memory of BRIDGET MCCOWAN
                           Ballinacarrica
               died 20th Dec. 1921 aged 81 years
               and her husband JOHN MCCOWAN
               died 6th March 1929 aged 96 years"


             " Erected by sons Edward & John USA "

Mary Kirby's death registered Westport SR district 1892. Farmer's widow, age 63, cause of death consumption. Informant Margaret Kirby, daughter-in-law.
Marriage registration of John Brown and Catherine Kirby is indexed incorrectly in Waterford SR district. I sent an email pointing out mistake. Her age looks like 16.

 
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Re: St.Columba industrial school mayo
« Reply #20 on: Monday 08 November 21 07:58 GMT (UK) »

           "In loving memory of BRIDGET MCCOWAN
                           Ballinacarrica
               died 20th Dec. 1921 aged 81 years
               and her husband JOHN MCCOWAN
               died 6th March 1929 aged 96 years"


Think it says Bridget McGowan.
Here's her death record aged 82 in 1921.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1922/05076/4392649.pdf


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Here's Ballynacarriga townland west of Islandeady.
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/burrishoole/kilmaclasser/clogher/ballynacarriga/
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: St.Columba industrial school mayo
« Reply #21 on: Monday 08 November 21 14:27 GMT (UK) »

Think it says Bridget McGowan.
Here's her death record aged 82 in 1921.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1922/05076/4392649.pdf

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Here's Ballynacarriga townland west of Islandeady.
https://www.townlands.ie/mayo/burrishoole/kilmaclasser/clogher/ballynacarriga/


Thanks. I mistook letters g for c.

Informant of Bridget's death was Thomas, her son.
1911 census John & Bridget + children, Thomas (38) & Ellen (28). John & Bridget had been married 41 years and had 7 children.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Clogher/Ballynacarriga/745541/
Birth registrations of some children (McGowan/McGown), Westport SR district. Mother's surname Murry.
1872 Ellen & Thomas, twins. This conflicts with 1911 census which has 10 years difference between them.
1877 Ann
1880 Edward (Presumably one of the sons who emigrated to U.S.A. and paid for parents' tombstone.)
1883 Bridget
Couldn't see a marriage for John McGowan & Bridget Murry.   
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Re: St.Columba industrial school mayo
« Reply #22 on: Monday 08 November 21 15:10 GMT (UK) »
Youngest child of Thomas & Mary Kirby.
1864 Stephen Joseph; residence Cugalla; mother's maiden surname McNally; informant Mary Kirby, sister, Cugalla.
1865 Thomas Kirby, Mary's husband died.
1886 A Stephen Kirby, landholder, Cogaula, married Margaret Joyce.
1901 census: Stephen & Margaret + 9 children
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Clogher/Cogaula/1603848/
1903 Margaret Kirby, Stephen's wife died.
1911 census: Stephen's 2nd wife was called Mary; they had been married 4 years. 8 children in household + Bridget Browne, boarder, single, aged 71. 11 people in 3 rooms.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Clogher/Cogaula/745444/
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Re: St.Columba industrial school mayo
« Reply #23 on: Monday 08 November 21 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Maiden Stone,
I might have missed this. How are the McGowans connected to the Browne/Kirby families?
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Re: St.Columba industrial school mayo
« Reply #24 on: Monday 08 November 21 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Maiden Stone,
I might have missed this. How are the McGowans connected to the Browne/Kirby families?
Heywood

I don't know. That's what I was trying to work out. Bridget McGowan & husband were seemingly buried in same grave as Mary Kirby, her husband & their daughter Catherine Browne. Memorial apparently paid for by McGowan sons in U.S., presumably after 1921 when Bridget McGowan died. Rest of tombstone, middle part where I assume Kirby names were, is now illegible.
I was hoping that Bridget McGowan or her husband were close relatives of Mary Kirby or her husband but apparently not.
Owenwee suggested that the large memorial on the Kirby grave indicated that Mary Kirby wasn't poor. However it wasn't her family who paid for it and it was put up maybe 30 years after she died.
Mary Kirby was widowed when she was in her 30's, her youngest child was 1.   
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Re: St.Columba industrial school mayo
« Reply #25 on: Monday 08 November 21 17:23 GMT (UK) »
The Kirby memorial is a different one to the McGowan one though.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149162919/thomas-kirby

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/149162930/catherine-browne

Mary Kirby is linked to the McGowan one but I think that could be wrong.
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Re: St.Columba industrial school mayo
« Reply #26 on: Monday 08 November 21 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Reply #25 heywood. I only looked at Mary Kirby on Find a Grave and got the memorial for Bridget & John McGowan, the one with a Celtic cross on top. I didn't look at Thomas and Catherine.
I've looked at Mary Kirby again and Thomas and Catherine now. You're right, Mary Kirby is linked to the wrong grave photograph. I was barking up the wrong tree with the McGowan family.
That's the 2nd mistake with this family; Catherine's marriage registration was under Waterford instead of Westport on Irish Genealogy index.
It says at the foot of the Kirby gravestone "erected by their son". I think that's what it says; letters at the end are shaded by dandelions.
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