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German Autopsy reports WWII
« on: Thursday 04 November 21 07:51 GMT (UK) »
HI there

Is it possible to find German autopsy reports online (or accessed somehow) relating to the remains of servicemen washed ashore at Castricum beach north of Ijmuiden, Netherlands June 1943. The SD and Abwehr examined all corpses for details.

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Re: German Autopsy reports WWII
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 November 24 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Never seen any, and I have visited all archives in the Netherlands, looking for information about missing/unknown soldiers, are you looking for a particular grave?

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Re: German Autopsy reports WWII
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 November 24 17:45 GMT (UK) »
There are similar held at St Venant in France from 1940 I believe these are now held by the local research group.  They helped the Rogers family identify a relative previously buried as an unknown so some post mortem records must have survived but if they were German or not I do not know .

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Re: German Autopsy reports in the Netherlands WWII
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 November 24 00:11 GMT (UK) »
Phillip & verrieres

Thank you for your replies

Phillip, the grave is in Bergen N.H box D2, grave number 27.

Martijn the chairman of the Bunker Museum in Ijmuiden and WWII researcher who I had been helping with his research into the crew from the Lancaster III bomber DV157 which went down off the coast of Ijmuiden, 12 June 1943. Martijn believes the identity of the serviceman in the unmarked grave is the navigator from this bomber (by process of elimination) but he needs to to present to the Commonwealth War Graves Commision (CWGC) more documentation. We have had contact with family who are unable to provide information which would help with this research.

Images of the crew before their final departure are sort, to identify the person wearing his own life jacket with his name on it (as it is indicated another crew member may have worn it) 

Cor van Pel of  Egmond aan Zee, which on behalf of the Germans, until August 1943, removed the washed up bodies from the beach between Bergen aan Zee and Castricum. A page from Cor van Pels book https://flessenpostuitegmond.nl/het-lijkenboekje-van-cor-van-pel/
When washed ashore on June 24, 1943, the airman was without his dog tags and at the time an autopsy was preformed by the Germans.

We were hoping to find where those records maybe held

verrieres, Pleased the Rogers family identified their relative. I will look into what records are held at  St Venant. Thank you

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Re: German Autopsy reports WWII
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 November 24 08:16 GMT (UK) »
There is a exhumation report of this casualty , but I don't have info on this one, whats in it.

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Re: German Autopsy reports WWII
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 November 24 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Phillip

I am unaware of the exhumation report
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Re: German Autopsy reports WWII
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 November 24 13:13 GMT (UK) »
There is an Exhumation Report so if information can be forwarded they could check it, as in some cases the is no report, so it will be impossible to make a case of it, as the CWGC refuse to open the graves to taken a DNA sample. Other then the US Army.

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Re: German Autopsy reports WWII
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 November 24 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Phillip

Where would I find the Exhumation Report. Yes, CWGC did refuse to DNA test

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Re: German Autopsy reports WWII
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 November 24 13:20 GMT (UK) »
The CWGC hold these Reports, and they are not open to the public >:(