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Roberts pre 1800s
« on: Sunday 31 October 21 10:32 GMT (UK) »
Looking for more records relating to Robert Roberts born ca 1782. If correct he married Gaenor Griffiths in 1804 and they had son Robert Roberts ca 1804 in St Asaph.  This Robert married Ann Mandle and was a stone Mason.

Can anyone find the earlier Robert's birth / baptism record?  Not seen him on a census.

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Re: Roberts pre 1800s
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 October 21 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Robert who married Gaenor Griffiths was a widower at the time of his marriage

ADDED Gaynor Roberts was buried at St Asaph 16 Feb 1836 age 68 (born c1768)
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Re: Roberts pre 1800s
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 31 October 21 13:04 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Hgreenla on Sunday 31 October 21 10:32 GMT (UK)
If correct he married Gaenor Griffiths in 1804 and they had son Robert Roberts ca 1804 in St Asaph.  This Robert married Ann Mandle and was a stone Mason.


There are 2 baptisms for a Robert Roberts with parents Robert & Gaynor at St Asaph 17 Mar 1805 & 02 Aug 1807.  Also a daughter Catherine 21 Jan 1809
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Re: Roberts pre 1800s
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 31 October 21 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Am I missing something ~

The marriage entry has no information about his occupation or age so I'm not sure how you know that he was a stone mason and his parents were Robert and Gaynor.

Do you have Robert and Ann on any censuses, or any other evidence that you could share with us?

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Add - I see that there is a tree on Ancestry which might be yours but no sources are given  :-\
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Re: Roberts pre 1800s
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 31 October 21 13:58 GMT (UK) »
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Do you think that  this the family on the  1851 census - 2506/324/12
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Re: Roberts pre 1800s
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 October 21 14:27 GMT (UK) »
I have John Martin and Sarah Ann Roberts wedding certificate. Sarah's father Robert is a stonemason. I have the census where Sarah Ann is living with Robert Roberts and he's listed as a bricklayer. Will look for the entry now.

It's the 1871 census with Ann,  Robert Roberts and Sarah Anne Martin are living together in St asaph

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Re: Roberts pre 1800s
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 October 21 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Hgreenla on Sunday 31 October 21 14:27 GMT (UK)
I have John Martin and Sarah Ann Roberts wedding certificate. Sarah's father Robert is a stonemason. I have the census where Sarah Ann is living with Robert Roberts and he's listed as a bricklayer. Will look for the entry now.

I've given the ref to it in the post just above.
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Re: Roberts pre 1800s
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 October 21 14:57 GMT (UK) »
The reason I'm a bit doubtful of Robert's parentage is that Robert Roberts is a pretty common name in Wales, particularly North Wales.   I have a 2 x great grandfather named Robert Roberts, luckily he married after 1837 so I had a father's name. However, this was John!  I eventually located them with a lot of hard work and contacting people in the area that I was interested in.
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Re: Roberts pre 1800s
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 31 October 21 15:29 GMT (UK) »
Ok so you're thinking gaynor and Robert are probably not the right parents. Yes it's far too common a name isn't it
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