Witness on Marriage Certificate

[sussexpoacher]

Hello

I am struggling to decipher the first and middle name on the first witness for this marriage.  There is a possibility that the woman is Scottish and I believe on occasion their middle names are sometimes ancestral surnames.

The first name could be Elsie, no idea on the middle name and the surname is Gardiner.

The other is definitely Charlotte Lydia Garrity.

Any help would be appreciated, I’ve been puzzling over this for years.

Thanks
Stephen

[rosie99]

I wonder if it should be Caroline 

[ShaunJ]

It says Clihline

[rosie99]

When & where was the marriage

[BumbleB]

I suspect Marylebone RD - December quarter 1917 - William J Gardiner and Violet L D Garrity appear on page 1400.

[BumbleB]

Birth registration - June quarter 1894 - West Ham RD - Violet Lydia Dorothy Garrity - mmn = Mansfield.

Oops - we're looking for Gardiner, aren't we?   

[sussexpoacher]

Spot on with the marriage, I’m surprised you managed to locate it with the screenshot I provided.

The middle name does look like Clihline, but not convinced, have googled it and it’s not a word.  Again could be Caroline, but the first 4 first letters are nowhere close.

[manukarik]

It certainly looks like Clihline. Couldn't find anything with the exact spelling but certainly lots of variations on Findmypast and Ancestry, all seem to have an Irish link and as you say possibly a surname used as a firstname, possibly mother's maiden name?

[sussexpoacher]

Perhaps it is Clihline, or something along those lines.  There’s very few people with a surname similar to this so it gives me a fighting chance of finding the parents of the groom.