large scottish families .how many DNA matches would you expect ?

[brigidmac]

i have 6 dna matches to my scottish  great grandparents thru 2 of my grandfathers sisters
 so none with paternal surname .

also no matches furthur back with surname . im wondering if there could have been a break in the line non paternal event or adoption of a child as

however my aunt does match 2 people thru one of this great grandfathers brothers .

going up a generation i only get one extra thru line  match  to descendant of a half uncle of my grandfathers mother  KYLE

up to 3 x great grandparents again extra matches only through  the KYLE father in law FLEMMING

why  are there lots of matches to this line and not the others

any theories ?

[brigidmac]

 i think there must be something wrong with thru lines

i have 6 matches to  descendants of my 3 x ggmother but none are showing to her husband yet my tree clearly links all children to both parents and i have not altered my tree recently .

iwonder why this is happening

[Gadget]

It could be that they've not tested and they'd be 4th cousins and possibly with removes

Have you seen this piece:

https://isogg.org/wiki/Cousin_statistics

[brigidmac]

Thanks gadget thats very useful and interesting .
Im going to look for some 3rd and 4th cousins and find out if they have taken DNA tests

[brigidmac]

 :Yes 4th cousins * 1 removed on the KYLE. Line are showing up but for some reason they are showing up as half 4th cousins david KYLE on my tree is not showing as their ancestor. *Two siblings at 14cm+ 15cm 1 segment 
Fits with parameters given in that document

I dont know whether to try removing david Kyle 1810  and adding him again .

His wife janet Robertson is showing as mutual ancestor

[brigidmac]

I also have a 5th cousin 15cm.1 segment
From David KYLEs sister

My paternal aunt doesnt match these 4C 1R or the 5th C

But does match a descendant of another of David KYLE'S descendants who i do not match he would be my 4th cousin .

[brigidmac]

Had a very enjoyable time adding KYLE descendants to match my furthest DNA match 5th cousin in Canada
Really interesting to see  that ancestors from aryshire mostly became mining families in  Shettleston and Cambuslang in Scotland

Looking at full families also found a little chimney sweep who made his fortune in Australia
.A branch that ended up in Canada another in Usa
And a few single mothers + their  children who ended up doing well

[brigidmac]

Found another explanation
I had the wrong years for David Kyle so some matches were to a different David Kyle of Shotts

Mine was not David Kyle b 1810 son of William KYLE b 1779 and Jean TRAIN  which is why I was getting no matches to 5th ggmother
But I do match one of their siblings and think my David Kyle b 1789 was brother of that William

[brigidmac]

This is a success story
Now that I have the correct year and  father's first name and 1  siblings David KYLE thru lines are showing to him . The other David KYLE  may be  his uncle
Still readjusting tree top
Also putting notes and comments on tree so people who have copied old details can correct it too 😂

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