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Duplicate marriages in Scotland?
« on: Sunday 24 October 21 05:39 BST (UK) »
I am looking for a family in Scotland and have encountered something strange when searching marriages. I have noticed several times that there appear to be identical marriages in two Parishes just a few days apart. For example, banns were posted for Alexander McGregor and Elizabeth McGregor at Kippen, Stirlingshire on 11 May  1776 and they were married there on 31 May the same year. Meanwhile, Alexander McGrigor and Elizabeth McGrigor were married at Callander, Perthshire on 30 May 1776. Callander is only 12 km from Kippen. The name spellings vary on different indexes, but the same duplication appears on several sites.
I know that McGregor in all its variations is a very common name, particularly in Perthshire, but I could only find a handful of church marriages of couples with these names anywhere in Scotland with no time limits, so it strikes me as unlikely that two couples with the same names would be married on successive days. I would have put it down as a coincidence had I not encountered a very similar coincidence with Peter McGregor and Mary Robertson married at Muthill, Perthshire on 6 June 1785 and at nearby Comrie two days later.
Is anyone aware of a custom where couples would register two marriages? I thought it might be a custom where the couple came from different parishes perhaps?

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Re: Duplicate marriages in Scotland?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 October 21 09:57 BST (UK) »
Yes that is why, the couple were from different parishes. Banns would be read out at church for three weeks preceding the marriage in both parishes so that any objections could be made.
Having read the banns the ministers would ‘complete’ the procedure by entering the marriage in bith parish registers.

Most likely the actual marriage date would be the former one, probably the brides parish.

My in-laws married in 1937 in Edinburgh. My father in law was working away in Southampton prior to the marriage. There is paper evidence, a weekly church order of service, to say the banns were read there even though the likelihood was that not many people knew him.

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Re: Duplicate marriages in Scotland?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 October 21 11:07 BST (UK) »
The procedure for an 18th century marriage in Scotland was this. First the couple went to the session clerk of the parish and announced that they intended to marry ("contracted for marriage"). This was then recorded. At the same time, they each paid a sum of money (called "pledges") to show their seriousness. Sometimes the name of a "cautioner" who would stand good for the money was given instead. The banns were then read out in church three successive times. Occasionally this was done twice in a day if the service was split into a morning and afternoon session. If there were no objections, the marriage then took place. It was normally held at the bride's parents' home.

A short time after the wedding, the couple could then apply to have the pledges returned to them. If there was no scandal attached to the marriage, this would then be done. However, if the wedding did not take place within forty days of the "booking" (the initial statement to the clerk that they intended to marry), if there was drunkenness, inappropriate dancing or the like at the wedding celebration, or if it was rapidly discovered that the bride was already pregnant, then the pledges were forfeit and went into the poor box.

Where the bride and groom came from different parishes, the banns were read in both places (as in your case). This is often very useful, as one entry might give information omitted in the other. What is recorded varies enormously. It can be no more than the names of the couple. You often see reference to the payment of the pledges ("consigned pledges for implementation and performance", or a variation on these words), sometimes reference to the reading of the banns, sometimes the fact that the marriage did actually take place or its date. If it is not explicit in the register that the date is that of the actual marriage, it is best to assume it is the date of the initial contract or booking.

If the pledges had been paid, but one of the couple got cold feet and withdrew, that person lost their pledges, but not the other party. Marriages very rarely took place on a Sunday, so if the date is a Sunday, it is likely that the couple informed the session clerk of their intended marriage when they were present for the weekly service.

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Re: Duplicate marriages in Scotland?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 October 21 13:07 BST (UK) »
That’s very interesting GR8, thanks.
I didn’t know about the pledges.


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Re: Duplicate marriages in Scotland?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 October 21 06:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks GR8,
That is good detail to know and I am reassured that I probably have the right couple!