Alfred Ambrose Stokeley

[CaroleW]

There is a tree on Ancestry showing his parents as John & Susannah.  It also shows John's parents as Trafalgar & Mary

There is an 1861 marriage on freebmd - John Stoakley to Susanna Allison Howell.

However - GRO online confirms that Frederick William Stokeley & Albert Howell Stokeley were born to that marriage so the info on the tree linking Alfred Ambrose Stokeley to those parents is wrong.  In 1871 John plus both children are with Trafalgar & Mary but no Susanna although John is shown as married

Susanna is with her parents plus 5yr old daughter Sophia

I will  message the tree owner with the link to this post as he appears to be interested in Alfred Ambrose

[rosieM]

That could be Frederick William Stokeley who married Clara Elizabeth Willmerson in Dec qtr 1891

Yeah Carole, I did think that when I looked into it. Can't see any Alfred for for John Stokeley, who I found to be the son of Mary and Trafalgar Stokeley. But has I can only find him and Susanah, or Susan before and after 1864 I can't tell if they had Alfred Ambrose. He would have been left home on the later census maybe. Its likely the right family.. Only ones for Brisley at right time. I'll just keep digging. I think the Frédérick who wed Clara could have been a younger brother of Alfred.
Much more to go on than I had.
Thanks very much. And if anything else springs up please pass it my way 

[CaroleW]

I think the Frédérick who wed Clara could have been a younger brother of Alfred.

I don't think he was connected to Alfred.  Alfred was 47 in 1911 so born 1863-64.  If he was connected - why is he not with either John or Susanna in 1871?  Where is his birth reg?

1861 June qtr STOKELEY  ALBERT  HOWELL  mmn    HOWELL     
MITFORD  Volume 04B  Page 291
   
December qtr 1863 STOKELY, FREDERICK  WILLIAM mmn     HOWELL     
MITFORD  Volume 04B  Page 290

1866  Sept qtr STOKELY, MARY  SOPHIA  mmn    HOWELL     
MITFORD  Volume 04B  Page 267

[rosieM]

I think the Frédérick who wed Clara could have been a younger brother of Alfred.

I don't think he was connected to Alfred.  Alfred was 47 in 1911 so born 1863-64.  If he was connected - why is he not with either John or Susanna in 1871?  Where is his birth reg?

1861 June qtr STOKELEY  ALBERT  HOWELL  mmn    HOWELL     
MITFORD  Volume 04B  Page 291
   
December qtr 1863 STOKELY, FREDERICK  WILLIAM mmn     HOWELL     
MITFORD  Volume 04B  Page 290

1866  Sept qtr STOKELY, MARY  SOPHIA  mmn    HOWELL     
MITFORD  Volume 04B  Page 267

OmGoodness you are right. Though, thinking on it, Rosie99 did say something about being with grandparents 71/81. I found trafalgar and Mary by that. Possibility?
I really appreciate the time you mods give. Thanks.

[rosieM]

There is a Fred Stokeley with wife Clara in 1901 at Red Lion, Brisley
RG13/Piece 1875 folio7 page 5
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSFR-8T3
Fred is 37 born Brisley and Clara is 30. 

In 1911 Clara is a servant (Married) in Brisley but her husband is not in the household 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7R9-HGG

Clara died in 1920.

There is a Alfred Stokeley who could be him living with grandparents on 1871/81 census in Brisley

Will have to leave this for now

rosie99 where was the Alfred living with Grandparents please? I can't find any with an Alfred? Thank you

[rosieM]

There is a tree on Ancestry showing his parents as John & Susannah.  It also shows John's parents as Trafalgar & Mary

There is an 1861 marriage on freebmd - John Stoakley to Susanna Allison Howell.

However - GRO online confirms that Frederick William Stokeley & Albert Howell Stokeley were born to that marriage so the info on the tree linking Alfred Ambrose Stokeley to those parents is wrong.  In 1871 John plus both children are with Trafalgar & Mary but no Susanna although John is shown as married

Susanna is with her parents plus 5yr old daughter Sophia

I will  message the tree owner with the link to this post as he appears to be interested in Alfred Ambrose

Oh only just realised you posted this Carole. Yes. I can see I was on the wrong track. Thank you. Alfred Ambrose is a hard man to find 

[rosieM]

Hi,
Can anyone shed any light on where this man was before 1911?  He gives birth in Brisely Norfolk about 1864 on that Census and they are living Kings Lynn Norfolk. But search as I might I can't find him prior to this. He is with Martha Manning (Maybe wife) but no record. She was wed to a John William Green 1887 who died around the turn of the century I think, aged 34. And in 1911 she is still 35 despite being so 10 years before.
Its said that each time she had a child it depended on what mood she was in as to what name they were registered. Some Green some Stokeley (diff spellings). And some cannot be Greens by simple deduction.  Where did Alfred Ambrose Stokeley come from?
Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.