New York census 1915

[Hgreenla]

No record of marriage to first wife, he married Annie in may 1896 east london.
Has Alice with Annie I think in Paris . Then another child Maurice appears with guittel?

[Hgreenla]

On his first sons marriage certificate  they put his name as Jack. His first daughter puts his name as Jacob. In France Jules.....

[Hgreenla]

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[Pennines]

Oh my goodness, this has moved on SO much since I poked my nose into it before closing down last night!

Just to answer the question originally put to me after that - a snippet from the arrival record for Esther Greenland in 1916 appears to a show a brother's name of Alexandre Geoffrey of 67 Rue (des Jardins Saint Paul) - but it's probably irrelevant now.

[*Sandra*]

Oh my goodness, this has moved on SO much since I poked my nose into it before closing down last night!

Just to answer the question originally put to me after that - a snippet from the arrival record for Esther Greenland in 1916 appears to a show a brother's name of Alexandre Geoffrey of 67 Rue (des Jardins Saint Paul) - but it's probably irrelevant now.

You mis-read the passenger list.
In reply 11, I pointed out that "brother" referred to the passenger travelling underneath Esther.

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Thank you for your message Hgreenla. Sorry had to dash away, neighbour needed assistance 

Sorry Hillhurst, that I never got around to replying to your personal message. 

That's the first time I have been blocked from replying to a personal message since I joined this site in 2007.

Didn't really have anything else to add but wonder if Julius Simon Greenland could have arrived in the UK after the 1890 census and left before the 1901 census ? Maybe that's why he does not appear on census, he had already moved on to France  ?

In reply 24 it gave the dates of Mary and Emmanuel entry on  London, England, School Admissions and Discharges as 23/8/1899 - although I see an entry for Emmanuel a year earlier 14 March 1898.

Sandra

[brigidmac]

Can you give a summary of what you know about Jules and his children with each wife .

I believe Kate can be an anglicised version of Gittel

Anna Hannel fingel / feinstein could be one and same person or two different wives.

Order of children might help decide unless he was a bigamist

[Ashtone]

I don't know why this didn't occur to me yesterday.... 

Hgreenla - do you have the 1896 marriage certificate for Julius Simon Greenland and Anna/Annie?
If so, please can you provide the following details:

1. What is Julius' father's full name and occupation?
2. What are the witness names?

[*Sandra*]

I don't know why this didn't occur to me yesterday.... 

Hgreenla - do you have the 1896 marriage certificate for Julius Simon Greenland and Anna/Annie?
If so, please can you provide the following details:

1. What is Julius' father's full name and occupation?
2. What are the witness names?

Related thread should have been mentioned before and linked

- https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=854359.0

See the related thread referred to in reply 59 this thread

Marriage certificate applied for - reply 45 other thread.

Sandra