Thanks Louisa, I found a John Palmer living with his grandparents who was born in High Hesketh but nothing after that then found another one aged 4 also living with his grandparents, a John Palmer who was a farmer but in Egremont, but when i've checked the gro website, can't find any other births. Might have a rest on this one for a bit, sometimes I can look too much, if you get what I mean? They make it look real easy on TV!!!
Thanks for your help
Elaine