What happened to Hannah Sophia Paviour? Born 1841 Middlesex.

[purple11]

Hannah Sophia Paviour was born 27th Aug 1841 in Middlesex.
Hannah was baptised 19th Sept 1841 at St Andrews, Holborn.
Her father was Frederick Paviour (1814-1868) and her mother Maria Middlewick (1813-1849).
Maria was Frederick's second wife/partner.

When Hannah was 8 years old her mother Maria Middlewick died 2nd Sept 1849 following postpartum complications. Hannah had already had two sisters die and this baby also died shortly afterwards. Frederick Paviour remarried shortly afterwards, a third time.

For the next few years, Hannah Sophia Paviour was ‘in and out’ of workhouses …. I have found admission and discharge records for her, into and out of poor houses including Norwood.

And then ??

Please can you help me?

There are a couple of other Hannah Paviours out there but Paviour is not a common name … I would really like to know what happened to my ancestor Hannah Sophia Paviour (DOB 1841).

I’m hoping things got better for her??

Any help gratefully accepted ~ as I’m new to family researching :-)
Thanks in advance!
    

[wivenhoe]

'my ancestor Hannah Sophia Paviour (DOB 1841).'

How are you descended from Hannah Sophia PAVIOUR?.

[jorose]

For the next few years, Hannah Sophia Paviour was ‘in and out’ of workhouses …. I have found admission and discharge records for her, into and out of poor houses including Norwood.

When and where exactly is the last record you have of her? What information is given about her on discharge - e.g. was she sent to relatives, into service, etc?

[Ashtone]

Jut in case anyone's looking for her in the 1851 census - she's an inmate at the Central London District School in Croydon. Name badly transcribed on Ancestry and FindMyPast.

Ancestry - Harl S Pavions (age 9); FindMyPast - Hart S Parviour (age 9)

Workhouse discharge date of 4 April 1857 (Westminster, Castle Street Workhouse). Notes indicate "To service" but no details provided.

There's a 12 July 1858 workhouse Admission record for a Sophia Paviour on Ancestry.
Westminster, Parish St Martin in the Fields. NOTE: Image indicates date is 14 January 1858.

[mckha489]

There are quite a few Paviour threads on Rootschat it might be worth your looking through. (Just enter Paviour in the search window at top of screen)

One starts

I had a thread about this family back in 2015, from which I gleaned a fair bit of new information.  However, they are still very elusive!  Paviour/Pavior/Faviour/Favior/Faveryear...the guess is yours

[purple11]

Thanks so much for your help everyone 
I can’t work out how to reply to each comment individually so here's all my answers in one place.

Last known record of Hannah:
Admitted to Parish St Martins in the Field 14th Jan 1858.

Descendant through:
In 1851, when Hannah would’ve been 10, her father (and his third wife) had a baby boy Alfred Charles Paviour. I am a descendant of this line. My records show that Hannah was in and out of workhouses by the age of 9, so she may never have met or known of her little brother?

Search for “Paviour”:
Thank you :-) I have tried searching rootschat but can’t seem to find any of the Paviours which I’m looking for like Henry Paviour, Frederick Paviour, Alfred C Paviour, Charles H Paviour, Alfred W Paviour, Clara Paviour, Louisa Paviour …. I couldn’t seem to get any of the other family names listed, to match, (yet!) I’m ever hopeful and will keep searching - thank you!

Admissions and Discharges (Records I have)
30 May 1850      Discharged Castle St Workhouse, Westminster to Norwood
30 May 1850      Admitted to Norwood
23 April 1856      Discharged from Castle St Workhouse, Westminster to
“Situation - Mr Doo’s/Soo’s Gal Merchant, Sydneyham” -Most concerning this particular discharge 
17 Oct 1856      Admitted to Castle St Workhouse, Westminster (aged 15)
17 Oct 1856      Discharged from Castle Street Workhouse to Norwood.
2 Mar 1857      Admitted to Castle Street Workhouse, from Norwood.
4 April 1857      Discharged from Castle Street Workhouse to “service”
14 Jan 1858      Admitted to Parish St Martins in the Fields Workhouse (age 17)

Thankyou Hillshurst for finding that 1851 census - thats a new find for me. 
(Thats also the year that her baby brother was born to her Dad and new wife)

Thank you everyone who has posted and helped so far 

[jorose]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3N2-W4YR?i=1125&cat=1316563
 - in 1856 she was discharged "to situation" (e.g. had a job) with a coal merchant

OK, here she is in 1858 :
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3N2-751N?i=422&cat=1316563
Listed as Sophi(e/a). Destitute.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3N2-71TW?i=432&cat=1316563
Left 8th February - own request, "for Australia"

A Sophie Paviour was in trouble with the law in 1861
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2933273?searchTerm=%22Sophia%20Paviour%22

She may also have had a child there:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTDV-G8H

The birth of this girl is registered under the surname Holmes, to a father Edward John and mother Sophia Pavier, but also under the surname Pavier
https://bdm.justice.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

There are several newspaper records of Sophia/Hannah Sophia/Anna Sophia Holmes, wife of Edward (sometimes "T" - Ted?) Holmes - not a particularly happy fate, I'm afraid.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/114441462?searchTerm=%22Sophia%20Holmes%22
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/260748771?searchTerm=%22Sophia%20Holmes%22

[mckha489]

Well Jorose, I am very impressed!

[purple11]

@ Jorose THANK YOU!!

Thank you thank you for all your searching & findings!
I really really appreciate the time you have spent helping me.

Sadly - what an incredibly sad ending for Sophia Holmes
Makes me kinda hope that its not my ancestor but the fact that she named her baby the same middle name as Maria, her mothers name, might not be a coincidence.

Thanks for pointing out that it was a ‘coal merchant’ not ‘gal merchant’ which I was a tad concerned about, but coal merchant makes sense. Thanks also for clarifying that ‘to a situation’ means to a job.

I feel like I have a million questions for you …
How could it be possible that she went to Australia? She had been in and out of poor houses since the age of 9 and labelled destitute. Would you happen to have any idea about how/why she would/could have got passage to Australia? Do you reckon there would be shipping records maybe? Where would I look next?

I tried to use the Western Australian BDM site to look up Harriet but it keeps saying ‘no records found’ … am I doing something wrong? Any chance you know what happened to the baby? There was no mention of her in the article where Sophia faced her grisly ending  . Maybe I could look up census documents for Perth for further information?

Thank you so much (again!)
I have learnt so much