Looking for Tony Brett

[heywood]

Agreed 

I have been trying to find an obituary for Frank which might have mentioned ‘Tony’ as his name but sadly I couldn’t. I had the same thoughts as Annette.

[jonwarrn]

I had the same thoughts as Annette.

Me as well!

[rosie99]

I was also thinking the same about Frank which is why I asked about the other siblings mentioned 

[Ian Johnson]

Right from the get-go I found it strange that at age 80 Doris came back to the UK in 1987 following death of a 'Tony' Brett.   You stated earlier that you got birth year of 1928 for him from the only 1987 death entry but suspect you'd taken the 'death' date from this entry too.   We've proved this person was not 'your' Tony.

My contribution now, for what it's worth, is that since Doris' siblings are listed when she died and includes only one brother, deceased (given as Tony) is that it was her only brother, Frank Walter Brett b.1913, died 17/11/1968 Croydon who she knew as 'Tony' (probably a family pet name with both father and son being named Frank).   Thus Doris coming back to UK late 1968 (incidentally, your online tree states Frank Walter died 1967 Newham, Northumberland ?? which is incorrect - as stated above he died 1968 in Croydon).

I firmly believe she did not have an illegitimate son Tony who she left here when she went to New Zealand, only later to come back to his funeral when he died.  Just doesn't make sense.

When her siblings were listed when she died, as jonw65 mentioned earlier, why mention a brother 'Tony' (deceased) of whom there is no trace and not mention her only brother Frank Walter Brett, who was indeed deceased?

Logic tells me that for whatever reason, she knew her brother Frank Walter as Tony.

Annette

not to spoil things but I just went onto baby names and put in the boys name Tony and got this

Meaning: Short Form Of Antony not frank

[Ian Johnson]

Right from the get-go I found it strange that at age 80 Doris came back to the UK in 1987 following death of a 'Tony' Brett.   You stated earlier that you got birth year of 1928 for him from the only 1987 death entry but suspect you'd taken the 'death' date from this entry too.   We've proved this person was not 'your' Tony.

My contribution now, for what it's worth, is that since Doris' siblings are listed when she died and includes only one brother, deceased (given as Tony) is that it was her only brother, Frank Walter Brett b.1913, died 17/11/1968 Croydon who she knew as 'Tony' (probably a family pet name with both father and son being named Frank).   Thus Doris coming back to UK late 1968 (incidentally, your online tree states Frank Walter died 1967 Newham, Northumberland ?? which is incorrect - as stated above he died 1968 in Croydon).

I firmly believe she did not have an illegitimate son Tony who she left here when she went to New Zealand, only later to come back to his funeral when he died.  Just doesn't make sense.

When her siblings were listed when she died, as jonw65 mentioned earlier, why mention a brother 'Tony' (deceased) of whom there is no trace and not mention her only brother Frank Walter Brett, who was indeed deceased?

Logic tells me that for whatever reason, she knew her brother Frank Walter as Tony.

Annette

my apologies to everyone for any confusion
but my grandmother did go back to the UK in 1987 i know so simply because she went from Auckland (NZ) because I saw her board the plane in a wheelchair, her words to us family was it as going to be her last trip.

All I did is ask a simple question whether Ada was Tony's mother, thats all .. has it was Ada was 42 when she had Joyce.
seems strange grandma waited 24 years to get married in 1931 and then wait 18 years in 1949 when she was 42 when she had my mum

[sparrett]

Hi Ian,
You mentioned in your Reply #16 that you might be able to attach the actual death notice that mentions Tony.
Would you mind doing that?

Sue

[rosie99]

You are correct that Tony is a short form of Antony/Anthony but the suggestion was Frank could have had the 'nickname' of Tony.  However as you now tell us that you know for certain that she flew in 1987 then it would rule Frank out.

The only death in 1987 for a Tony/Antony/Anthony in the England/Wales was the one you have in Lancashire with the 1928 birth.  There are also no Brett deaths with those names as second names..

[heywood]

not to spoil things but I just went onto baby names and put in the boys name Tony and got this

Meaning: Short Form Of Antony not frank

Ian, you are not spoiling anything.
You will notice that from the outset we searched for Anthony/Antony. However, it is not unknown for people to assume a different name or pet name.
We just wonder why brother Frank is not mentioned in the obituary.
I think you wrote that grandma kept the two sides of her family separate (or similar).
Perhaps whoever gave the information to the obituary was unaware of brother Frank, who had been dead for some time, or was misinformed or indeed there was another brother somewhere of an unknown age/birth.
Mistakes happen.
For example, we keep referring to Frank Walter (birth name) but his baptism shows Frank Lewis - perhaps  an error at the time - who knows.

[Ian Johnson]

Hi  Sue
here you go