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Anchor Inn, Ruthin, victualler in 1940s John Thomas Jones
« on: Tuesday 05 October 21 16:54 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I’m looking to trace a John Thomas Jones b 6 May 1900 in Birmingham, who took up as licensed victualler at Anchor Inn, Rhos St, Ruthin by 1940. His family are linked to Bethesda (dad is Thomas Williams Jones) and Birmingham (mum is Mary Elizabeth Assinder) so it’s not clear why he headed to Ruthin. This Ruthin address information came from his auntie’s will where he is named as the executor.

Not sure if he married, if or when he moved on, perhaps to another pub in North Wales?

Can anyone help with licensed victualler records searches?

Thank you in advance!
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Re: Anchor Inn, Ruthin, victualler in 1940s John Thomas Jones
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 17:48 BST (UK) »
Looking at his 1939 occupation - that’s quite a switch in employment
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Re: Anchor Inn, Ruthin, victualler in 1940s John Thomas Jones
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 17:53 BST (UK) »
Looking at his 1939 occupation - that’s quite a switch in employment

It is! I’ve been searching for an engineer all this time. He may well have changed again so finding his next move might be tough.
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Re: Anchor Inn, Ruthin, victualler in 1940s John Thomas Jones
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 18:00 BST (UK) »
Looking at his 1939 occupation - that’s quite a switch in employment

I was thinking that, Carole. I'm thinking that he might have been up there doing something related and it might have been c/o licensed victualler...................who appears to have an Irish sounding name.
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Re: Anchor Inn, Ruthin, victualler in 1940s John Thomas Jones
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 18:25 BST (UK) »
The Anchor Inn (Rhos Street) is in the 1939 Register. Two redacted lines beneath an entry for a woman (DoB 1916) listed as Domestic Help. Not sure if the redacted lines belong to the Anchor Inn.

Aug 1940 newspaper mention for "Miles Timson Lewis. Anchor Inn, Ruthin. who was fined £1 for not having the sidelamps of a car partially obscured".

Yvie - this link should assist with licensed victualler research: http://www.pubhistorysociety.co.uk/PDF-Dowloads/ancestors.pdf

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Re: Anchor Inn, Ruthin, victualler in 1940s John Thomas Jones
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 19:15 BST (UK) »
The Anchor Inn (Rhos Street) is in the 1939 Register. Two redacted lines beneath an entry for a woman (DoB 1916) listed as Domestic Help. Not sure if the redacted lines belong to the Anchor Inn.

Aug 1940 newspaper mention for "Miles Timson Lewis. Anchor Inn, Ruthin. who was fined £1 for not having the sidelamps of a car partially obscured".

Yvie - this link should assist with licensed victualler research: http://www.pubhistorysociety.co.uk/PDF-Dowloads/ancestors.pdf

Thank you for this. Think I need to confirm who the Licensed Victualler was between 1940-1945 at least. Is there a specific directory I need to go to on this pdf (bit confusing which direction to go in)?

The Brewery History site says the pub was run by Salt & co brewers.

Golden nugget will be where to find the directory!?  :D

Can’t find any positive results looking for quarter sessions or recognisances so far, but perhaps the newspapers aren’t all available.

He seems to vanish!
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Re: Anchor Inn, Ruthin, victualler in 1940s John Thomas Jones
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 19:23 BST (UK) »
Double checked the will, I’ve attached a snapshot of where it says his address and I presume his occupation. It does suggests he’s the Licensed Victualler, but could it be a c/o?
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Re: Anchor Inn, Ruthin, victualler in 1940s John Thomas Jones
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 19:43 BST (UK) »
When was the actual will signed?  Was he a beneficiary & was any address given for him at that time?

What date was Probate granted?

Trying to narrow a date down
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Re: Anchor Inn, Ruthin, victualler in 1940s John Thomas Jones
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 05 October 21 19:54 BST (UK) »
When was the actual will signed?  Was he a beneficiary & was any address given for him at that time?

What date was Probate granted?

Trying to narrow a date down

Ok, the will was signed 20th April 1940 (with this address info in Ruthin).
A codicil added 2nd Sept 1944 adding another niece to the beneficiaries.
His Aunty died 2nd Feb 1945, and probate granted 13 July 1945.

If his address hasn’t changed as executor of the will then he’d still be in Ruthin at Anchor Inn?
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