German Pre-Unification (1871) BMD oiriginal dox

[JDC]

Hi, I have been searching on Ancestry for the BMD documents for my Matthaus Coy and Catharina Strube  family. They all seem to be transcribed (least the ones I have seen in Ancestry), but less than a quarter of them show the original documents. These dox are in German but how do we know if the originals have first been transcribed properly in German and then translated to English? Most of the documents I am after are are German pre-unificaction period for the Karlsruhe as well as Habitzheim areas. It is very hard to find out if the original document are not shown. I am unsure if others are having the same experience?

How can this be dealt with? Is there another site that can be tapped into - FamilySearch doesnt seem to have these documents online (least not yet).

Cheers, JDC

Any help with this will be appreciated.

[TreeSpirit]

There is some online stuff here: https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=12390

Familysearch seems to have a fair number of digitized records for the churches in Karlsruhe  but it seems that you'd have to view them at one of the many family history centers (FHC). e.g. https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&query=%2Bsubject_id%3A357041%20%2Bavailability%3AOnline

more useful info: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Baden,_German_Empire_Church_Records

[davecapps]

need more input, names, dates, religion, places
Dave

[JDC]

Hi Dave,

At the moment I am attempting to see or get a copy of my 2g-grandfather, Charles Coy, in Canada (Franz Karl Coy in Germany) the original birth/baptism document Below is the transcription, but the origial image is not there.

Name:    Franz Karl Coy
Event Type:    Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date:    1854
Baptism Date:    1854
Baptism Place:    Karlsruhe, Baden (Baden-Württemberg), Deutschland (Germany)
Father:    Matthäus Coy
Mother:    Katharina Coy
Legitimacy:    Ehelich
City or District:    Karlsruhe
Author:    Evangelische Kirche Karlsruhe (KrSt. Karlsruhe)

His father, Mathaus Coy's death transcribed death record info from 1856 is on on Ancestry, but again - no image. From my experience, Ancestry seems to have problems with transcribing, I have come across quite a few documents that are mis-transcribed. I cannot make any comment about their translation from German to English since I don't know the German language.

Again, any help is appreciated, thx.

JDC

[JDC]

Thx treespirit for the links, I will check them out in a bit.

JDC

[JustinL]

Try www.archion.de, the German website that provides access to digital images of hundreds of original parish registers; mostly Protestant, i.e. evangelisch. It's not free.

You'll probably need to look through the registers of the Karlsruhe Stadtgemeinde.

You will find the handwriting challenging, all the more so if you don't have a command of German.

Good luck anyway.

[davecapps]

HI
I may have found his birth record.
born 7 may 1854
father Matthäus  Coy
get back to you later
Dave

[JustinL]

You presumably do not recall that back in 2017 Svenja provided a number of links including one to the parish records.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=770874.9

I've been going through the images and have found:
Marriage of Matthäus Coy and Katharina Strübe on 20 May 1850 http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=4-1218812-65
Birth and baptism of Franz Coy on 7 May 1854 http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=4-1218816-22
Death and burial of Matthäus Coy on 23 March 1856 http://www.landesarchiv-bw.de/plink/?f=4-1218818-113

I have transcribed the records, but haven't got around to the translations yet. I'm not 100% sure of the names of the various witnesses.

Matthäus was indeed from Habitzheim, the son of Ambrosius Coy and Margarethe Hebeisen.

Katharina was the illegitimate daughter of Christine Strübe.

[davecapps]

well done Justin
I also found the records on Archion.
I´ll leave this one to you. It makes no sense having 2 people working on it.
Dave