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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 27 January 22 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Sometimes less is more when searching and the 1921 is no different. Then click on the transcript button which we’re familiar with on FindMyPast
Don't click unless you intend to pay £2.50 for the privilege - hovering is enough!  ;)

It also depends on which platform you’re using as to if hover actually works! I have to do different things depending if I’m using my laptop or an old iPad.
I agree with ticketyboo and I’ve only ever paid for the images I want to pay for and never felt I was in danger of clicking by accident.

Thanks candleflame, that is useful to know, I suspected that it may be slightly different on a tablet, but rarely use one so wasn't sure about that.

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 27 January 22 18:56 GMT (UK) »
I'm a bit puzzled by the 1921 census that I downloaded.

My grandparents had five boys under the age of 16 at the time of the census.  He states he has five children under the age of 16.   He gives the names/ages of three children living at home and indicates the ages of two children living elsewhere.

The boys ages were 8; 10; 11; 13; 14;  grandfather complied with the instructions which clearly state that all living children should be noted by an X in the relevant age columns whether living at that address or not.

For some unknown reason the enumerator has crossed out the X in ages 13 and 14 and reduced the total of five living children to three living children.

Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 27 January 22 22:53 GMT (UK) »
That is not correct.
If you click on either the image or the transcript icon in error, you would get the panel that tells you the cost and you have to take further action (another click) to agree to pay.

Its NOT click on the icon and automatically have your card charged.

Sorry, it is correct.  I didn't say your card would be charged - in any case you always have the option to cancel.  I merely pointed out that hovering is enough to show you three names from the transcript (or the original image), you don't need to click.  8)
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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #48 on: Friday 28 January 22 08:39 GMT (UK) »
That is not correct.
If you click on either the image or the transcript icon in error, you would get the panel that tells you the cost and you have to take further action (another click) to agree to pay.

Its NOT click on the icon and automatically have your card charged.

Sorry, it is correct.  I didn't say your card would be charged - in any case you always have the option to cancel.  I merely pointed out that hovering is enough to show you three names from the transcript (or the original image), you don't need to click.  8)

Sorry not correct but on an iPad you can’t hover. You get the search page with all the names on, you choose which entry you’d like to see, so you have to click on either the transcript logo or the image logo - doesn’t matter which. Only then do the ‘Fred jo and marg live here ‘ appear. Then you just close that window if they are not yours or you don’t wish to buy. I’m typing this on my iPad and I’ve just done a check search to make sure I am accurate.
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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #49 on: Friday 28 January 22 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Sorry not correct but on an iPad you can’t hover. You get the search page with all the names on, you choose which entry you’d like to see, so you have to click on either the transcript logo or the image logo - doesn’t matter which. Only then do the ‘Fred jo and marg live here ‘ appear. Then you just close that window if they are not yours or you don’t wish to buy. I’m typing this on my iPad and I’ve just done a check search to make sure I am accurate.

We'll have to agree that we are both correct (or not).  I don't use an iPad, and perhaps you don't use a desktop  :D
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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #50 on: Friday 28 January 22 10:08 GMT (UK) »
I'm a bit puzzled by the 1921 census that I downloaded.

My grandparents had five boys under the age of 16 at the time of the census.  He states he has five children under the age of 16.   He gives the names/ages of three children living at home and indicates the ages of two children living elsewhere.

The boys ages were 8; 10; 11; 13; 14;  grandfather complied with the instructions which clearly state that all living children should be noted by an X in the relevant age columns whether living at that address or not.

For some unknown reason the enumerator has crossed out the X in ages 13 and 14 and reduced the total of five living children to three living children.

Sounds like though your Grandfather interpreted the instruction correctly, the enumerator didn't. I looked at the return that my Granda did - which puzzled me at first glance as though he was married with two children at that stage, he was the only person at home that night (turns out Granny and the two children were visiting her parents elsewhere)
and he too interpreted the instruction correctly and in this case the enumerator did not alter it.

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 09:38 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This is just a small thing I've been wondering about but I do think it's quite odd and so would be interested what other people had to say about it.

For the 1921 census for my ancestor Charles Henry Rowe living with his daughter Hilda and her newly-wed husband Samuel John Bunt, there seems to have been four different people who filled in different sections of the census.

As you can see the majority of it is written all by one person, but 'Son-in-Law' is clearly different handwriting to the rest, apart from possibly 'Daughter' below, though this is strange in that they suddenly start writing in lowercase halfway through the word.

There then seems to be different writing again for 'St Blazey Gate' in 3f as it looks quite similar to the son-in-law writing but the a's are different.

There then seems different writing AGAIN for the signature, which I think is the only part of the census actually filled in by Charles himself, and bears strongest resemblance to his signature on his first marriage certificate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-QV3B-C?i=244&cc=1804330&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKCS3-VX3

I noticed a similar situation with the 1911 census for this family, where only his own name and his signature and address at the bottom look as if they were written by him, and the rest by someone else.

I know this is very pedantic but it just seems so odd so many different people seem to have added various sections of the 1921 census especially.

The Sloggetts of St. Teath/St. Minver; Sloggetts of Australia; Sloggetts of America; Winns of Mabe/Helston; Winns of America; Rowes of St. Blazey/Par; Angoves of Illogan; Tregarthens of the Scilly Isles; Billings of St. Breward; Martins of St. Gluvias; Haydons of Dartmouth; Brownsons of Stoke Fleming; Boyens of Poplar/West Ham/Surrey; Boyens of New Zealand; Boyens of Australia; Emblens of Hampshire/Sussex/London; Wrights of London; Greens of Preston; Hemphills and McKerrachers of Scotland.

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 31 May 22 14:04 BST (UK) »
Trevellian reply #51. A few suggestions.
One person began to fill in census, was interrupted or was unsure about some sections, another person continued it, then a third person, checking it, (census collector?) noticed some blanks, asked questions and wrote down answers.
There may have been uncertainty about what to put for place of birth, it may have been left blank until birth certificate was found or a relative was consulted.
A household return for an Irish census I've seen was written by 2 people, in different coloured inks, with 2 spellings of the family's surname.
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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 02 June 22 15:27 BST (UK) »

I know this is very pedantic but it just seems so odd so many different people seem to have added various sections of the 1921 census especially.

I have an image from the 1921 census. Nine family members Dad (72), Mum (65), and 7 'children' ranging in age from 36 to 22.
Each line is in a different handwriting. Looks like Dad did his bit and then passed the form around for each family member to complete their own details.
He signed the declaration to say it was correctly filled up to the best of his knowledge and belief, didn't need to say he had actually written it all so he wasn't telling any fibs.