1851 Derbyshire Census - query revisited after 14 yrs and still stumped!

[spendlove]

Hi Haywood,

Image of this birth registration per BMD, shows Hamson as does the Record on GRO site, so cannot explain why Lancashire has Harrison.

Spendlove

[heywood]

I am just pointing that out for anyone who might want to check - Chadderton sub district.

[spendlove]

Hi,

Thanks

in 1871 Census, Rosina and Wm Heapy, are living next door to her mother and sister Mary Jane.
Rosina states age as 18, which is correct, a few months earlier on her marriage she stated 20, her place of birth she gives Leek, Staffordshire.

Which just proves you have to be careful when searching info for our tiresome ancestors

Spendlove

[chris_1]

Hi Spendlove,
Thank you for looking into the Hamson family for me.

I had found Mary Jane's birth, but not discovered Ann on 1871 census of Leek. Is there an address for them?
The 1861 Leek census states Ann was b in Nantwich, Cheshire. But it was transcribed as Preston, Lancs in the 1871 census which you found.

Also, in 1861 the spelling of Thomas senior's birthplace as Boulton, Lancashire not Bolton could also be an error. Is there a possibility it could be Boulton, Derby?

Rosina 'Harrison's place of birth on the BMD.org is interesting as I know Middleton near Oldham very well. My assumption that it was Stoney Middleton, Derbyshire could well be incorrect. Thank you for pointing out other possibilities.

I have had no luck in finding the marriage of Thomas and Ann, they seemed to move Districts a lot. Their son Thomas was born in Macclesfield so maybe that is a possibility, who knows!

Many thanks again for your help.
Chris 

[DCB]

In 1871 Ann and Mary Jane are at St Edward Street Court House, Leek & Lowe, Leek, Staffordshire.

In 1881, they are at 35, Bank Street, Macclesfield, Cheshire, with a grandson Leonard. Transcribed as Hanson.

Ann Hanson Head Widow Female 64 1817 - Leek, Staffordshire
Mary Jane Hanson Daughter Single Female 19 1862 Silk piecer Leek, Staffordshire
Leonard Hanson Grand son Single Male 0 1881 - Macclesfield, Cheshire
Mary E Sales Boarder Single Female 19 1862 Silk piecer Leek, Staffordshire

In 1901, he is with Robert and Jane at 206, Hamilton Street, Manchester, as a boarder

In 1911, he is in Manchester with Mary Jane Ball.
Mary Jane Hamson married Robert Ball in Leek on 1st August 1885, daughter of Thomas Hamson, a silk weaver.

In 1891, as Amson, he is with Robert and Jane as a stepson at Union Street, Leek and Lowe, Leek.

David

[DCB]

I think Ann Hamson's death was registered in Leek Q1 1890, born 1816.

Leonard, no mother's mmn, born Q1 1881 in Leek. Assume Mary Jane was His mother.

David

[spendlove]

Hi Chris-1

In your last post you say
“
The 1861 Leek census states Ann was b in Nantwich, Cheshire. But it was transcribed as Preston, Lancs in the 1871 census which you found.”

In the 1871 census, looking at the place of birth stated on census image, Ann states born Preston so not a transcript as such.

In 1881 she states, again from census image, born Leek, Staffordshire.

In 1851 she states St. Mary’s, Stafford
She is not consistent when giving her place of birth, so of little help in finding her actual birth place.

Agree with DCB, that her death is March Q 1890 Leek

Leonard is with Mother in 1911 census Manchester,  however he states Married 2 years, which ties in with a marriage June Q 1908 Leek. So Leonard Hamson married one of these Rose Benson or Ida Mary Chappells.

Spendlove

[glenclare]

He married Rose Benson

[DCB]

Just found the same about Leonard from a tree on Ancestry:-

On the GRO birth index he is Howson, mmn Barker.

Born on 23 Dec 1880 in Leek, he married Rose Benson, nee Barker, in Leek Q2 1908.
She was born on 5th September 1869 in Leek.

Rose was living separately in 1911 with Clifford at 6 Angle St Leek.

Clifford married Lily Peacock in Leek district Q2 1941

They had a son John in 1947 but he died in the same year.

Also a daughter, who may still be living and had three children.

David