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I am interested in the Fittleton Wiltshire 1871 census for John Whatley b 1828 if anyone could help please. John is married to Ann Daniells.

In 1871 I have just become aware  the family were living in Fittleton having moved about a bit in the area. I am interested in the names of the family children and if there is a Clara Julia Whatley b1862  in the census. Clara is my great great grandmother and was born in Chitterne according to her birth certificate. Her son is a John Staples Swain Whatley (not to be confused with the aforementioned John Whatley b1828). John SS Whatley has no recorded father on his birth certificate and it is this illegitimacy that interests me and I am on the hunt for answers especially with such an interesting name!
Whatley Williams Dent Walkden Holdsworth Price

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Re: Fittleton Wiltshire 1871 census look up request, John Whatley Ann Daniells
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 August 21 16:30 BST (UK) »
1871

John Watley 43
Ann 44
Eliza 18
Arthur 16
Frederick 14
Emily 12
Julia 10
William 8
George 3
John 1
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Fittleton Wiltshire 1871 census look up request, John Whatley Ann Daniells
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 August 21 16:32 BST (UK) »
When was John S S Whatley born?

Is this his baptism in Millwall

Baptism 19 Oct 1884
Born 18 Jul 1883

Parents John S S & Julia Watley
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
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Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Fittleton Wiltshire 1871 census look up request, John Whatley Ann Daniells
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 August 21 16:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Millipede
Thank you for your input it is greatly appreciated. Here is the information I have...
Born 18/07/1883 Poplar, East London, England so yes this looks like the baptism record you have found. Thank you.

Served in Cavalry in second Boer war 1899-1902 in cavalry . At the moment I think he was in the imperial yeomanry.

Mess room steward in 1901 on ship ss una of hull
Living at 105 Percy rd  West Ham at time of marriage
Married a the Parish Church of Holy Trinity Barking rd Canning Town West Ham
Travelled on SSNiger in 1895 sailing Jan see attached PL
Birth Cert 1883 Poplar Sept 1c 686
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Served in Merchant Navy in WW1
Whatley Williams Dent Walkden Holdsworth Price


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Re: Fittleton Wiltshire 1871 census look up request, John Whatley Ann Daniells
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 August 21 17:38 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Do you have information that makes you believe the father on the1884 baptism register is incorrect?

Also the address given is in Bath and not London?  ???

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Re: Fittleton Wiltshire 1871 census look up request, John Whatley Ann Daniells
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 August 21 17:40 BST (UK) »
Does he name a father on his marriage cert
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Re: Fittleton Wiltshire 1871 census look up request, John Whatley Ann Daniells
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 August 21 17:58 BST (UK) »
Does he name a father on his marriage cer


Hi
Yes, John Staples Swain Whatley  is on the marriage certificate as father to John Staples Swain Whatley(married Ellen Ward) and is down as a farmer.
 My gran's dad John S S Whatley never talked about his father and as there is no name on his birth certificate so it's all quite intriguing. I noticed a John Staples Swayne but with a "y" not an "i" near Chitterne so could he be the reason Julia or Clara Julia went to London perhaps disgrace? Who knows?
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Re: Fittleton Wiltshire 1871 census look up request, John Whatley Ann Daniells
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 August 21 18:08 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Do you have information that makes you believe the father on the1884 baptism register is incorrect?

Also the address given is in Bath and not London?  ???

Hi
I now don't doubt the father is correct with it being such a random name, it's I'm just trying to build a collection of supporting information to who he was. I have to say the Bath thing is weird, you're saying John baptised in Millwall but all moved to Bath? 
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Re: Fittleton Wiltshire 1871 census look up request, John Whatley Ann Daniells
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 August 21 18:29 BST (UK) »
I expected an address in the millwall area on the baptism register, but it reads as follows:

Baptism Tower Hamlets
Oct 19th 1884 born 18th July 1883

Parents
John staples swayne Watley a farmer
& Julia

Address East Cliffe, Steeple Laysford or could be Langsford, Bath