Who is William Anderson, father of Thomas Anderson from Duneight, Drumbo?

[DaveMcC]

I am trying to find out who my x4 great grandfather, William Anderson is. The only child of his I know about is my x3 great grandfather, Thomas Anderson who I have confirmed is directly related to me.

Thomas Anderson married married Eliza Jane Crawley on February 23 1859 in Drumbo Meeting House when he was 31 and she was 27. On his marriage certificate, it lists his residence as Duneight, Drumbo and hers as Aughnahoe, Derryaghy, Lisburn. It says Thomas father was William Anderson a farmer. If the age is correct, Thomas would have been born c.1827-1828 but I don't know who his father William Anderson is and or if William had anymore children.

All my grandmother could tell me is that she only knew her Anderson family came from Lisburn and didn't know anything about them that far back and didn't know any of them lived in Drumbo, so I am a bit stuck, especially since William Anderson is a bit of a common name and I don't want to get information mixed up with a different William Anderson. Can anyone help?

[Kiltaglassan]

On his marriage certificate, it lists his residence as Duneight, Drumbo........

The marriage took place in Legacurry Presbyterian Church.
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-upper/drumbeg-down-portion/ballymacbrennan/legacurry/

Thomas was from the townland of Duneight in the in Civil Parish of Blaris (Castlereagh Upper portion).
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-upper/blaris-castlereagh-upper-portion/blaris/duneight/

The townlands adjoin each other.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4636171#map=15/54.4742/-6.0113

[Kiltaglassan]

All my grandmother could tell me is that she only knew her Anderson family came from Lisburn and didn't know anything about them that far back and didn't know any of them lived in Drumbo.......

Here's the townland of Aghnahough, on the NW outskirts of the city of Lisburn.
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/massereene-upper/derriaghy/island-folly/aghnahough/

William George Anderson (a widower) farming in the 1901 census.
House 27 in Aghanahough (Islandkelly, Antrim)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Islandkelly/Aghanahough/998816/

Claims he was born in Co Down but was actually born in Co Antrim (Aughnahoe (sic)) in 1872 to Thomas and Eliza Jane.    MMN Crawley    #32
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03252/2191998.pdf

William George now married again in 1911 census.
House 55 in Aghnalough (Island Folly, Antrim).    Mistranscribed by IrishGen...
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Island_Folly/Aghnalough/199200/

KG

[DaveMcC]

All my grandmother could tell me is that she only knew her Anderson family came from Lisburn and didn't know anything about them that far back and didn't know any of them lived in Drumbo.......

Here's the townland of Aghnahough, on the NW outskirts of the city of Lisburn.
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/massereene-upper/derriaghy/island-folly/aghnahough/

William George Anderson (a widower) farming in the 1901 census.
House 27 in Aghanahough (Islandkelly, Antrim)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Islandkelly/Aghanahough/998816/

Claims he was born in Co Down but was actually born in Co Antrim (Aughnahoe (sic)) in 1872 to Thomas and Eliza Jane.    MMN Crawley    #32
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03252/2191998.pdf

William George now married again in 1911 census.
House 55 in Aghnalough (Island Folly, Antrim).    Mistranscribed by IrishGen...
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Island_Folly/Aghnalough/199200/

KG

Thanks but I know where Aughnalough area is and about William George Anderson and about him being married, widowed and remarrying again and all about his children and descendants.  What I meant was my grandmother didn't know anything about her Anderson family as far back as that William Anderson mentioned on Thomas Anderson's marriage certificate.

I am just trying to find out if there is any info on that William Anderson, father of Thomas Anderson to see if he had any more children besides Thomas but it is going back to before bith records officially started which makes it more difficult.

[DaveMcC]

All my grandmother could tell me is that she only knew her Anderson family came from Lisburn and didn't know anything about them that far back and didn't know any of them lived in Drumbo.......

Here's the townland of Aghnahough, on the NW outskirts of the city of Lisburn.
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/massereene-upper/derriaghy/island-folly/aghnahough/

William George Anderson (a widower) farming in the 1901 census.
House 27 in Aghanahough (Islandkelly, Antrim)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Islandkelly/Aghanahough/998816/

Claims he was born in Co Down but was actually born in Co Antrim (Aughnahoe (sic)) in 1872 to Thomas and Eliza Jane.    MMN Crawley    #32
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03252/2191998.pdf

William George now married again in 1911 census.
House 55 in Aghnalough (Island Folly, Antrim).    Mistranscribed by IrishGen...
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Island_Folly/Aghnalough/199200/

KG

Thanks but I know where Aughnalough area is and about William George Anderson and about him being married, widowed and remarrying again and all about his children and descendants.  What I meant was my grandmother didn't know anything about her Anderson family as far back as that William Anderson mentioned on Thomas Anderson's marriage certificate and we would like to know if he had anymore children besides Thomas but it is going back before birth records started which makes it a bit more tricky to find out, especially as I mentioned in my first post, the name William Anderson isn't an uncommon name.

[DaveMcC]

While trying to find out who this William Anderson is, I came across Griffith's Valuation which mentions a William Anderson living in Tullyard, Drumbeg (I don't know the date though): http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=083122&path=./pix/083/&rs=33&showpage=1&mysession=2776668546154&width=&height=

That could be possible since the Thomas Anderson I mentioned above, his son David was born in Tullyard: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03599/2327328.pdf

On Ancestry, several people on their family tree, seem to have a Samuel Anderson as the brother of Thomas Anderson that I have mentioned already, as Samuel Anderson's father is a William Anderson, but I don't know how to find out for sure if he is the brother of Thomas Anderson or not.

Marriage certificate for Samuel Anderson: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1848/09344/5383290.pdf

Marriage in the Registrars Office in the Town of Belfast in the District of Belfast

July 3rd 1848 Samuel Anderson Age: 25 Condition: Widower Rank or Profession: Labourer Residence at the Time of Marriage: Townland of Ballymacarrett Parish of Knockbreda Father's name and surname: William Anderson Rank or Profession of Father: Labourer

Elizabeth Campbell Age: 20 Condition: Spinster Rank or Profession: --   Residence at the Time of Marriage: Townland of Ballymacarrett Parish of Knockbred Father's name and surname: Solomon Campbell Rank or Profession of Father: Can't read what it says.

[DaveMcC]

I think I may have found death records for William Anderson I am looking for, including his wife Elizabeth Ann both in Tullyard, Drumbeg.

The death record for William Anderson 5th December 1873: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1873/020683/7257181.pdf

The record mentions Thomas Anderson present at death Tullyard Drumbeg which would fit this William Anderson as being the father of Thomas Anderson. My x3 great grandfather, Thomas Anderson had 3 of his 4 children in Tullyard, Drumbeg. Thomas other child, William George Anderson was born in Aughnahoe, Derryaghy before Agnes was born in Tullyard: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03252/2191998.pdf

Thomas Wife, Eliza Jane Crawley was from Aughnahoe. Birth records for their other 3 children:

David Anderson: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03599/2327328.pdf
John Scott Anderson: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1867/03478/2278042.pdf
Agnes Anderson: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03153/2156568.pdf

I found this death record of Elizabeth Ann Anderson 2nd August 1872: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1872/020730/7272986.pdf it says William Anderson was present at her death in Tullyard, Drumbeg, so this looks like it could be the wife of William Anderson I am looking for and the mother of Thomas Anderson as I never knew who Williams wife was.

I looked up PRONI Wills Calenders for any wills or administrations for William Anderson and Elizabeth Anderson but couldn't find anything.

[Roxanna]

I have these records - may or not be related.
From the Drumbo records.
Elizabeth Pentland, of Drumbo, married John Anderson on 17 jul 1707 at the Presbyterian Church

And there are two birth records.
John Anderson married to          
   William Anderson, bap 17 jun 1703, Drumbo, Down, fhl film 823750      
   William Anderson, bap 9 jun 1706, Drumbo, Down, Ireland, Presbyterian, fhl 823750      

[DaveMcC]

I have these records - may or not be related.
From the Drumbo records.
Elizabeth Pentland, of Drumbo, married John Anderson on 17 jul 1707 at the Presbyterian Church

And there are two birth records.
John Anderson married to          
   William Anderson, bap 17 jun 1703, Drumbo, Down, fhl film 823750      
   William Anderson, bap 9 jun 1706, Drumbo, Down, Ireland, Presbyterian, fhl 823750

Thanks for the information. I have no idea how if any to make the connection to those records though. I checked my DNA matches on Ancestry to see if anyone had any Andersons on their tree from Drumbo and I had one match.

On their tree it has a Robert Anderson born about 1730 in Drumbo and his wife was a Margaret Bisset and they had a son Robert born 16 June 1756 in Drumbo and his wife was Mary Ann ? and they had a daughter, Sarah Ann Anderson born 1780 Drumbeg and Sarah's husband was a William McKee and they were married on 2 November 1799 in Belfast. William MvcKee was born in Ballynagarrick in 1780 to Thomas McKee and Margaret Craig.

On the Search Proni Names: https://apps.proni.gov.uk/ProniNames_IE/SearchPage.aspx

There is a reference of a David Anderson, farmer from Tullyard Drumbo who left a will in 1828 but it no longer exists. This could be someone connected to my Anderson family since I traced my Anderson ancestors back as I mentioned abpve, a William Anderson from Tullyard and his son Thomas who also lived in Tullyard and Thomas Anderson had a son named David.