Hay family, weavers in Strichen and Aberdeen circa 1830s

[clairemmain]

Does anyone have connections to a family of the name Hay working as weavers (various) in Aberdeen and Strichen early to mid 1800s?  I've got a kind of brick cylinder here that I'm circling and trying to find a weak point!

[DonM]

Only two families in Strichen, one was an Army Pensioner the other no idea as he died pre 1841.

In Aberdeen (county) far too many without having more information (ie names) 368 recorded Marriages between 1800-1830

Don

[clairemmain]

Only two families in Strichen, one was an Army Pensioner the other no idea as he died pre 1841.

In Aberdeen (county) far too many without having more information (ie names) 368 recorded Marriages between 1800-1830

Don

Sorry, should've been more clear.  Was looking for people who already have these families researched that may be able to shed some light on who is related to who.  I believe the Chelsea Pensioner may be of interest, but I'm not sure, trying to track down records for him at the moment.

Basically I have a Margaret Hay who I believe died between 1841 and 1851, as her children then end up in other families.  One son is living with a John Hay and his wife Isobel (nee Roger), listed as a cousin.  The other is a servant in a household where the other servant is a girl of similar age called Ann Hay, daughter of William Hay and wife Helen (nee Kidd). 

According to her marriage certificate, Margaret Hay's father was a weaver in Strichen called James Hay.  Both men listed above were weavers, living nearby to Strichen.  I can't find a father for William, and James father was called John Hay. 

I suspect Margaret is either sister or cousin to William, and cousin to John.  But I'm hoping by narrowing down these Hay families I can zero in on who Margaret was since the only documentation of her I can find is a marriage certificate and an 1841 census that gives me very little info.

[ColC]

Only two families in Strichen, one was an Army Pensioner the other no idea as he died pre 1841.

In Aberdeen (county) far too many without having more information (ie names) 368 recorded Marriages between 1800-1830

Don

Don I agree with your comments but for information the 1841 to 1871 census are on freecen.

The Army Pensioner you mention is there from 1841 to 1861, he was born in London about 1787.

 Colin

[ColC]

Margaret Hay who I believe died between 1841 and 1851.

Margaret is on the 1841/1851 census.

 
MARGARET HAY age 60  likely death 10/06/1753 Strichen. (On SP)

Colin

[clairemmain]

Margaret Hay who I believe died between 1841 and 1851.

Margaret is on the 1841/1851 census.

 
MARGARET HAY age 60  likely death 10/06/1753 Strichen. (On SP)

Colin

Hi Colin.  This is definitely a different Margaret Hay, as the one I'm looking for was married in 1833 and had two sons c. 1837 and 1844.  She is the same woman referenced in this post.

[ruthhelen]

Margaret Hay who I believe died between 1841 and 1851.

Margaret is on the 1841/1851 census.

 
MARGARET HAY age 60  likely death 10/06/1753 Strichen. (On SP)

Colin

Like you, I assumed that this was the Margaret Hay the OP was referring to - but, through the powers of deduction  - I think we’re actually looking for Margaret MacGillvray (ms Hay), who married James MacGillvray in 1833 in Aberdeen.

Here are the two children referred to in King Edward in 1851:

1851 Crudie Farm
John Mackie, head, 32, Farmer, King Edward
Mary Mackie, wife, 36, King Edward
Janet Mackie, daughter, 5, King Edward
John Mackie, son, 2, King Edward
William Hutcheon, visitor, 34, Farmer, King Edward
Jane Anderson, servant,  17, Gamrie, Banffshire
Ann Hay, servant 14, Monquhitter
James McGillvray, servant, 13, Aberdeen

1851 Cook
John Hay, head, 45, Linen Weaver, Monquhitter
Isobel Hay, wife, 41, Monquhitter
Janet Hay, daughter, 16, Monquhitter
Catherine Hay, daughter, 8, King Edward
Christian Roger, mother in law, 69, Monquhitter
Helen Panton, niece, 22, Monquhitter
John McGillivray, cousin, 7, Aberdeen

I think this may be Margaret McGillvray (ms Hay) and James in 1841:

1841 Flour Mill Brae, Aberdeen
Margaret McGillivray, 25, Shoe Binder, Aberdeenshire
James McGillivray, 3, Aberdeenshire

Ruth

[clairemmain]

Margaret Hay who I believe died between 1841 and 1851.

Margaret is on the 1841/1851 census.

 
MARGARET HAY age 60  likely death 10/06/1753 Strichen. (On SP)

Colin

Like you, I assumed that this was the Margaret Hay the OP was referring to - but, through the powers of deduction  - I think we’re actually looking for Margaret MacGillvray (ms Hay), who married James MacGillvray in 1833 in Aberdeen.

Here are the two children referred to in King Edward in 1851:

1851 Crudie Farm
John Mackie, head, 32, Farmer, King Edward
Mary Mackie, wife, 36, King Edward
Janet Mackie, daughter, 5, King Edward
John Mackie, son, 2, King Edward
William Hutcheon, visitor, 34, Farmer, King Edward
Jane Anderson, servant,  17, Gamrie, Banffshire
Ann Hay, servant 14, Monquhitter
James McGillvray, servant, 13, Aberdeen

1851 Cook
John Hay, head, 45, Linen Weaver, Monquhitter
Isobel Hay, wife, 41, Monquhitter
Janet Hay, daughter, 16, Monquhitter
Catherine Hay, daughter, 8, King Edward
Christian Roger, mother in law, 69, Monquhitter
Helen Panton, niece, 22, Monquhitter
John McGillivray, cousin, 7, Aberdeen

I think this may be Margaret McGillvray (ms Hay) and James in 1841:

1841 Flour Mill Brae, Aberdeen
Margaret McGillivray, 25, Shoe Binder, Aberdeenshire
James McGillivray, 3, Aberdeenshire

Ruth

Hi Ruth,

Yep, you've got it.  I linked to my previous post on the family above.  You'll see in that post than in addition to the Margaret McGillivray on the census that year, there's a Margaret Hay with a 3 year old James McGillivray, also a shoebinder and also living in Aberdeen.  I suspect one is Margaret giving the information while they're staying somewhere else in the city, and the other is a neighbour giving the information as to who normally lived at an address.

I'm trying to narrow down the Hay families associated with the two young sons, in order to narrow down Margaret's parents and try and find when she died.  As you can see I'm not having much success.