Grandfather

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Believe he was in the 12th East Surrey Regiment, service number 5142. There are several miltary records on Findmypast, one of which indicates he was wounded in Forearm(possibly left arm)

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[ANT_55]

Wow, thanks very much for that information. What do you think are the chances it will be him?. I do know he was in a sanitorium in essex somewhere, and died in 1937 aged 41 of TB. I also wonder if there is a grave that still exists. Thankyou very much for this information, even small amounts of info gets me so very excited. I really appreciate what you have found out. ......Tony.

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Tony,

Info only re Grandfather Harry Abbott died 1937 aged 41.

Starting with the birth of Eldest son Henry John Abbott. Born as per 1939 war register dob 31.03.1920

His birth address 24, Sidney Street etc as per image.

In 1921 census free index the only person living at no. 24 was a Harry Abbott, aged 24y 10mths, born Islington, Dock Labourer (ex army)

Birth

ABBOTT, HARRY       mmn OSBORN 
GRO Reference: 1895  S Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 334

Marriage of Parents  (Image available on Anc*)-takes you back another generation.

Marriages Jun 1895   
Abbott    Henry        Islington    1b   484    
Osborn    Ada                Islington    1b   484

1901 census.

Piece   181 Folio   107 Page number   28
Household schedule number   196
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Mr Abbott 24 Head
Mrs Abbott 24 Wife
Harry Abbott   5   Son
#John S Abbott 1 Son



# ABBOTT, JOHN  SIDNEY     mmn OSBORN 
GRO Reference: 1899  S Quarter in ISLINGTON  Volume 01B  Page 287


1911 census   Piece   888
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Henry Abbott   34   Head
Ada Abbott 34 Wife
Harry Abbott 16 Son
John Abbott 12 Son
Albert Abbott 5 Son

1921 finds Henry & Ada at the same address as Harriet Susan in 1939 war register

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Harry's father Henry Abbott was born 31.3.1877, Sidney Street, Parents Charles & Rebecca. Baptism image on Anc*

Charles Abbott married Rebecca Smith 1871 (image of marriage on Anc*)

Charles was born

ABBOTT, CHARLES       mmn MALONEY 
GRO Reference: 1848  D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01  Page 277


Parents Charles Ford Abbott & Sarah Ann Maloney--married 1845, image on Anc* and takes you back another generation.

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[cath151]

Hi
There is a tree on Ancestry for a Harry Abbott with similarities born St Pancas and died 1937 Whipps Cross Sanctuary, Tidal Basin, Leyton of TB.

A word of warning, public trees are not always accurate and though there are similarities, there are several differences too. eg address Sidney Street but mmn not Gold, also marriage date wrong .
So must be taken with a huge pinch of salt!
I think you are safer with what rootschatters have found and as advised a couple of certificates to confim some details.
Hope I have nt added to the confusion
Cathy

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Mis-transcribed on FindMyPast as Harriet Robson (1897) & Henry J Robson (1920) on 1921 census. With her parents.

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added, transcription error reported to FindMyPast

[ANT_55]

Thank you all so very much for your help, i am so amazed at the information you give. Keep up the good work, and god bless you all. Tony.

[Darnity]

Tony, is there a family history society anywhere near where you live? or a U3A family history group?

I think you would find out so much more about how to go about doing your tree if you were to talk to other family historians - we all had to start from scratch and build up our knowledge as we went along, which is why we tend, as a community on places such as here, to be happy to help others.

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General info, Charles Ford Abbott on a few documents records his occupation as "Optician". Do not think this is quite what we imagine in modern day terms. In 1841 census he was an apprentice to a James Kitchen who was a telescope maker. When Charles & Sarahs daughter Maria was baptised in 1864 his occupation was an Optical Turner. Probably was involved in the grinding and shaping of optical lenses.

1841 ref 721 5 5

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