Livermores of Essex

[LizzieL]

Are you sure the sister Ann married a Mr Ady. There is a marriage for an Ann Livermore in Wethersfield to Guiver Ansell on 2 June 1743. In Guiver / Guyver's will he mentions a son Ady Ansell otherwise Ady Livermore (by his wife Ann Livermore before their marriage).

[LizzieL]

You mention wills - does that include Isaac Livermore of Wethersfield, draper, 1730. He mentions a Thomas Livermore of Wethersfield, innkeeper and his son Isaac. There is a baptism of an Isaac in Halsted to Thomas and Mary around 1717.

I don't think is the right Isaac after all.
later in his will Isaac (draper of Wethersfield) mentions Thomas Livermore of Halstead , but does not mention relationship, so he is different from his brother Thomas (innkeeper of wethersfield). Also there is an isaac Livermore and his wife Elizabeth, baptising children in halstead around the same time that Isaac and Ann are baptising theirs in Dunmow etc.

Isaac (draper of Weathersfield mentions quite a lot of Livermores in other places in Essex, but not his relationship to them. He does mention sister Jane Crackenthorp. A Jane Livermore married John Fuller in Halstead in 1709, then a Jane Fuller married Samuel Crackenthorp in Halstead in 1721.
Bothe jane and samuel are mentioned in will of J Livermore of Bocking Braintree in 1745. Possibly the John Livermore of Bocking mentioned in Isaac of Weatherfield's will. 
Also Issac left something to a dissenting minister of Bocking - which makes me wonder whether they were non-conformists and Isaac of Dunmow might have been an NC baptism. The Livermores seem to have form in that respect !

Modified to correct Bocking to Braintree.

Jane Crackenthorp also mentioned in a will of T Livermore of Weathersfield in 1731 - Essex wills beneficiaries index. trying to find if actual wills are on line

[amondg]

Have you tried tracing the family by who inherited what land and how did they get it in the first place.
I cannot see the Essex wills only the PCC wills
For example there is a will of William Yalden of Good Easter, did he leave land to Isaac Livermore who married Ann Yalden 1751.
Then Isaac Livermore 1815(son of your Isaac) has land in Good Easter.

Your Isaac 1794 leaves Brick House in Little Dunmow to his son Isaac but has lands, tenements, orchards, gardens etc. in Great Dunmow that are to be sold. Recalling that Isaac Snr. and Ann had children in Barnston for several years before moving to Little Dunmow, what made him move an inheritance? 

[nlarkin1]

Thanks all for the above (I honestly am very grateful for all your help/suggestions). I'm aware off all of the above, apart from the Ady/Guiver connection. Ann is simply listed as Any Ady in her brother's will, so I'll have a dig around there.

Regarding the property etc -- I've no confirmation that William Yalden left property to Isaac Livermore specifically. However, Isaac came into possession of Brick House via his brother John Livermore. In John's will, he leaves Brick House and various other properties to his brother Isaac to use until Isaac's death, after which he wills that the property be then given to one of Isaac's other sons (I think John from memory). So to me that indicates that John either had no children, or no surviving children by the time of his death. I've not been able to locate a marriage for that John, nor any other wills to be able to trace the history of the property before this time.

That's why I'm so eager to find a cluster of baptisms of the siblings to be able to have a real idea of where they came from.

Regarding Brick House in Little Dunmow -- it was put up for sale earlier this year for over £3 million. If only it had been left to my line!

[amondg]

Brick House caught my attention as my 3rd Great grandparents owned a house called Brick House  in Coggeshall, the land that went with it is now a housing estate.

Is there anything interesting in the marriage bonds? Isaac to Helen Smith 1747, Isaac to Ann Yeldon 1751 and finally John Livermore to Susan Hubbard 1760.

ERO ref: D/DGd T98 Manor of Livermore alias Livermoor Grange in Brandon Suffolk 1693-1733.

Any connection?

[LizzieL]

Is there anything interesting in the marriage bonds? Isaac to Helen Smith 1747, Isaac to Ann Yeldon 1751 and finally John Livermore to Susan Hubbard 1760.

I have John Livermore and Susan(na) Hubbard marriage in Little Chesterford. I have this John as one of our lot, not the Wethersfield / Dunmow lot. Baptised 25 Oct 1741 in Great Chesterford s/o Daniel Livermore and Mary nee Reynolds.