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Elliott's in New Silksworth
« on: Tuesday 30 August 05 23:46 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know anything about any ELLIOTT's Living in New Silksworth around the turn of the 20th Century, In particular Maurice Dale ELLIOTT born about 1878 in West Cornforth. He married Margaret Annie BROWN in 1903 at Houghton le Spring.
He had a daughter - Mary Jane ELLIOTT, born 28 December 1908 in Warwick Terrace, New Silksworth.
What I would really like is some info on Mary Jane - if she had any siblings etc. But info on her parents would be nice as well.
Mary Jane died 4 July 1953 and was the Mum that I thought was Mother only to learn later that I was adopted, I have no info on her apart from her DOB & DOD Certificates and also her Marriage Certificate. I have no photos or anything apart from very vague memories so if I could find any relatives I might have a chance of finding out about her and hopefully , BIG hopefully, a picture.
Hope this makes sense to those that are really only interested in real Genealogy.
Best Regards,
Diddy
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Re: Elliott's in New Silksworth
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 August 05 00:10 BST (UK) »
Sorry I can't help with anything from 1901 onwards but here is Maurice with his family in 1901

10 Silksworth Terrace Tunstall Durham

William Elliott 1848  Durham, England Head Coal Miner - Deputy
Mary A Elliott  1851  Hetton le Hole, Durham, Wife 
 Arthur Elliott  1891  New Silksworth, Durham,Son 
 Edith Elliott 1880  Bearpark, Durham,  Daughter 
 James Elliott  1882  Bearpark, Durham,  Son  Coal miner
 John W Elliott 1884  Bearpark, Durham,  Son Coal miner 
  Maurice D Elliott  1878  West Cornforth, Durham,Son Coal miner
 Rodger C Elliott 1886  Bearpark, Durham,Son  Coal miner
 Sallie A Elliott 1888  Bearpark, Durham,  Daughter

  RG13/4718 Sunderland Folio 54 Page 18

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Re: Elliott's in New Silksworth
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 August 05 10:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Tricia,
I knew about Maurice Dale's Parents and sister Edith but the rest was all news to me. Also didn't know where they lived.
So thanks again, much appreciated.
Diddy Dave
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Re: Elliott's in New Silksworth
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I researching the war memorial in Silksworth. John William Elliot is named on it.
I am looking for info about him and hopefully a picture of him. He died at home and was the last soldier noted in 1921


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Re: Elliott's in New Silksworth
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 21:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tunsilk,

The only info I have on John W. Elliott is that which was posted earlier on this thread. As such the date of his death that you posted was of great interest to me. Thanks for that and sorry I cannot be of any help.

DiddyDave
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Re: Elliott's in New Silksworth
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 22:43 GMT (UK) »
DiddyDave,

As you probably already know, it is more difficult searching for folk after than 1901 than before, mainly because Census 1901 is the latest available to us.

But we can pick up clues, pick up possibilities and eliminate them or otherwise....

Looking at the era 1903 ( Elliott/Brown marriage) to 1908
(birth of Mary Jane Elliott)... the birth of a child , called Maurice Dale Elliott, was registered in the March Qtr 1905 with Sunderland District Register Office.

Unfortunately in the same qtr at same DRO, the death of a Maurice Dale Elliott was registered.

Also registered in this era at both Houghton and Sunderland DROs, were births( and deaths) of Elliott children, who may or may not have been of Maurice/Margaret...

Sometimes conventions of the English Naming Pattern (ENP)can provide clues for the parents first names of couple
e.g. rule no.1... A couple's first son was to be given the name of his father's father, No.2 second son to be given name of his mother's father. No.6 first dtr to be called after her mother's mother.

But the regimen of the ENP was dying out by circa1900 and deaths of infants messed up our view of pattern.

Rule No.3 had it that a couple's 3rd son was given the child's father's name... in this case Maurice... so
if Maurice and Margaret were in step with ENP, then this unfortunate Maurice was their 3rd son ( but probably unlikely because of date of their marriage.

Civil Birth Registration indexes up to 1910 only included one surname, that of the father. From 1911 the records revealed the mother of the child's  maiden or previous name.... so...

The birth of a John R Elliott was registered with Sunderland DRO in Sep Qtr of 1913, with mother's name Brown.

Clues can also be provided by families passing down surnames as second names ... e.g.

Maurice Dale Elliott's brother, Rodger, had a second name of Cooke, so in Elliott birth registrations after 1903, I looked for a reoccurrence of Cooke.. but did not see any.

Source of above info was FreeBMD site ( but transcriptions not yet complete ! )

Maurice's parents were William and Mary Ann. Do you know the name of Margaret Annie Brown father (from her marriage cert) or mother.

On Census 1901 there are at least 4 elligible Margaret Browns living in Tunstall/Silksworth..


Lets hope from the War and Peace above, there is at least a wee snippet of value to you.

Michael Dixon
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Re: Elliott's in New Silksworth
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 November 06 20:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Dave

If you look at my web site www.tunsilk.co.uk you can see my information so far