Plymouth - Crown Hill Cemetery?

[vapcq45]

Hi

Was there a cemetery in Plymouth called Crown Hill?  My Gt Grandfather buried 4 of his children from TB and we think this is where they lie.  But I can't find any modern day reference to this cemetery.

Any help welcome.  Thanks

[Flemming]

Hi there, when did the burials take place and what suggests they were buried in a cemetery by this name? Could it be that your great grandfather lived in Crownhill rather than his children being buried there?

Crownhill is a suburb to the north of Plymouth and covers quite a wide area today. There are two Roman Catholic churches there and also a Methodist church, with CofE at Eggbuckland. The main Plymouth cemetery is at Ford Park which opened in 1848.

EDIT: one RC church, not two.

[Gadget]

As far as I can recall, Crownhill  had a large naval barracks/married quarters.  I don't recollect a cemetery there. As Flemming says, the main cemetery was/is Ford Park, which is off Mutley Plain. I think there might have been one at Efford  and also a  small one at Stoke Damerel.

Add - and  D&C police headquarters. It's coming back to me know - we left 20 years ago!

[vapcq45]

I have a note written by a relative that says in 1933, my Gt Grandfather “drove to Crownhill cemetery, Plymouth, a lot ...”. His 4 children died between 1910-1922. He was a Boatswain in the Royal Navy. At the time of the childrens’ deaths the family were living first in Barton Avenue, Devonport and then Fleet Street East.

Thanks for your help. It would be lovely to be able to locate their graves.

[Gadget]

Here's a very large scale map of the area,. If you pan around you might be able to locate a cemetery.   I've centred it on Crownhill 

https://maps.nls.uk/view/189247781#zoom=6&lat=7722&lon=6604&layers=BT


Gadget

[Gadget]

Also, the adjacent map to the east, showing Efford cemetery, which I mentioned earlier. I wonder if they meant that one.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/189247955#zoom=7&lat=5194&lon=1385&layers=BT

Gadget

[Gadget]

I've just remembered that my cousin and his family lived there for while in the 70s when he was a naval officer, so he would have known if there was a cemetery there. Sadly he died a few years ago.

I've had another look at the first map but can't see anything as yet.

Do you have the names?

Add - you could ask:

https://www.plymouth.gov.uk/birthsmarriagesanddeaths/deaths/burialandcremation/cemeteriesandcrematoria

[Flemming]

With burials in those years, it's unlikely to be connected with Crownhill RC as St Peter's didn't really get established until after that - see below.

https://stp-stm.org/st-peters-history/

The Church of the Ascension (CofE) is also too late (consecrated in 1958), although the Methodist Church was earlier (see below) but no graveyard attached.

http://www.crownhillmethodist.org.uk/joom25/index.php/about-us/history/20-cmc-main-menu/about-us/history/69-a-new-chapel-is-built

With the family living in Keyham, you'd expect any burials to be at a cemetery closer to them. Weston Mill or Ford Park would be the obvious choices. The latter offers burial searches for £10.50 (see below). Not sure if Weston Mill offers the same but you could try calling them.
https://www.ford-park-cemetery.org/index.php/cemetery-services/gave-searches

Have you tried searching on FindAGrave, BillionGraves and/or Deceased Online?

I also wonder if the children died in hospital rather than at home which may account for burials further away from Keyham. Brian Moseley has a page for hospitals on his 'Encycopaedia of Plymouth' website (now archived - see below) and it may be worth looking through these for TB and 'isolation' references.

https://web.archive.org/web/20131117020147/http://plymouthdata.info/Hospitals.htm

Do you have any of the death certificates? As well as saying where the children died, you may find some clues about burial location. If they died in hospital, and the records have survived, you may be able to access them from The Box in Plymouth. These usually say if the deceased was buried in hospital grounds or elsewhere, and typically mentions their religion.

One other thought - you may want to look at St Budeaux CofE church which is on Crownhill Road. Devonport people sometimes used it for BMBs, and there are some instances of services being conducted there with burials then in Eggbuckland.

[vapcq45]

There is some great advice here and I thank you all.  I will take some time to look at the map and I agree with you - they must have meant Ford Park or Weston Mill so will get in touch to see about searches, plus Efford.  I've been an Ancestry member for years and have tried all the usual searches on there plus FindMyPast plus Deceased on Line and Findagrave with no joy.  I also have all their death certs but no clues there, it looks like they all died at home with their mother present.

Thank you again for all of your time on this.  Really appreciate it.