Author Topic: Help with Cap Badge  (Read 877 times)

Offline DavidGreenall110

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 500
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Help with Cap Badge
« on: Thursday 29 July 21 19:38 BST (UK) »
Hello All,

I'm trying to identify this cap badge for John Fairclough Houghton, Can't find any MRC's or Service Records under that name. He was from Wigan born around 1878 so, around 36-38 when he enlisted.
The picture was most probably taken in 1915-1916 by the age of the children.

Regards
Dave
Death, Sambles, Searle, Loates, Beamish, Brooks, Bates, Coates, Hughes, Lythgoe, Johnson, Rodgers, Hawthorne, Rhodes, Lister, Sneyd

Offline MaxD

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 8,056
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help with Cap Badge
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 July 21 20:08 BST (UK) »
My stab - General Service Corps

MaxD
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia

Offline DavidGreenall110

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 500
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help with Cap Badge
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 July 21 21:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks MaxD,

Was thinking that or the Manchester's?
Death, Sambles, Searle, Loates, Beamish, Brooks, Bates, Coates, Hughes, Lythgoe, Johnson, Rodgers, Hawthorne, Rhodes, Lister, Sneyd

Offline MaxD

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 8,056
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help with Cap Badge
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 July 21 22:14 BST (UK) »
The word Manchester at the bottom of their badge gives the badge a flat bottom if that makes sense. The GSC badge has the upward indent seen on his badge. (Can't post pics on my less than smart phone!)

MaxD
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia


Offline DavidGreenall110

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 500
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help with Cap Badge
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 July 21 23:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks, I'll see if I can find anything under that unit.

Dave
Death, Sambles, Searle, Loates, Beamish, Brooks, Bates, Coates, Hughes, Lythgoe, Johnson, Rodgers, Hawthorne, Rhodes, Lister, Sneyd

Offline DavidGreenall110

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 500
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help with Cap Badge
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 July 21 00:44 BST (UK) »
Found him on the Absent Voters List as a Private in the 566th Home Service Employment Company Labour Corps
Death, Sambles, Searle, Loates, Beamish, Brooks, Bates, Coates, Hughes, Lythgoe, Johnson, Rodgers, Hawthorne, Rhodes, Lister, Sneyd

Offline MaxD

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 8,056
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help with Cap Badge
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 July 21 09:38 BST (UK) »
The photo would most probably have been taken before the Labour Corps, who had their own badge,  was formed.  Home Service (Employment) Companies were formed in July/August 1917. 566 Coy was employed in the Blackpool area.  These companies were formed from the least fit men who were already being employed on garrison type duties at home and provided batmen. cooks, storemen and the like. His number, if you have it, will give an indication as to when he was transferred to the Labour Corps, and may turn up a pension claim.

MaxD

Source - No Labour No Battle by Lee and Starling

Deletion - see later post
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia

Offline DavidGreenall110

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 500
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help with Cap Badge
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 July 21 12:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks MaxD,

That would probably make sense as it would most probably be 2 years down the line from the photo.

Can't find anything under his name or service number (498084) though!

Dave
Death, Sambles, Searle, Loates, Beamish, Brooks, Bates, Coates, Hughes, Lythgoe, Johnson, Rodgers, Hawthorne, Rhodes, Lister, Sneyd

Offline MaxD

  • Deceased † Rest In Peace
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 8,056
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Help with Cap Badge
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 July 21 14:07 BST (UK) »
His number was issued in the period October 1917 to Feb 1918 (No Labour No Battle).

 I should amend my earlier statement about the badge.  The Labour Corps wore the GSC badge until late 1918 when they received their own Corps badge although some continued to wear that badge.  We can at least sugest that the photo was after Jul/Aug 1917.
MaxD
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia