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Re: London Neighbourhoods
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 17:15 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has a record of his arrival - under "Calling" it states "Chimney Sweep". Age is 18.

Another record has him as "labourer"

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« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 17:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks hanes teulu  :)

If he was 17 on 4 Dec 1816 (trial) and transported aged 18 on 26 April 29 March 1817, and assuming these entries are correct, he must have been born between 5 December and 26 April, 29 March and perhaps that's why researchers think he was William Ward, born 9 March and baptised 14 April 1799 at the Old Jewry Church.

If his parents (William and Ann Catherine nee Hennell) lived at Gee's Court, maybe they're not the wealthy couple that davisd think was related to the Hennell blacksmiths? All I coudl find is that they were married in 1795 in Edmonton, London, according to one transcript on FamilySearch. Is this correct (Ancestry, FindMyPast)? And was William the only son?

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Re: London Neighbourhoods
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 19:11 BST (UK) »
Trade or Calling
Do and Chimney Sweeper
(Do - dittoed from above, Servant)
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Digital/CON13-1-1/CON13-1-1P102

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Re: London Neighbourhoods
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 19:27 BST (UK) »
he may have travelled to Sydney as a temporary crew member on the Lord Liverpool, arriving in Sydney in October 1824.

Among other similar stuff, Application of William Whard of Brisbane Water for permission to purchase land
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKS-MKK7


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Re: London Neighbourhoods
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 19:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks jonwarm. 'Whard' is a surprise  ::)

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Re: London Neighbourhoods
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 20:13 BST (UK) »
Yes it is, I think generally in those land records he is Ward.

Interesting that William Ward had a companion when the crime was committed, I guess he got clean away.
Coincidentally on the same day at Old Bailey, another Ward was tried for a Marylebone crime.
Robert Ward, 62, sentenced to death (he was later reprieved)
This crime happened just a week after William was nabbed, not sure of the exact location but Wellbeck Street is quite close to Duke Street/Manchester Square.
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/record/t18161204-8?text=ward

Who knows, maybe Robert was a relation!

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Re: London Neighbourhoods
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 20:35 BST (UK) »
Just in case there is anything else, and it may be a folorn hope, but there are the Old Bailey records up to 1834 held at the London Archives. Obviously difficult to search if you are in Australia!
Research Guides
https://www.thelondonarchives.org/your-research/research-guides

For example
Research guide 42 - My ancestor was a convict

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Re: London Neighbourhoods
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 22 October 25 20:40 BST (UK) »
Yes it is, I think generally in those land records he is Ward.

Interesting that William Ward had a companion when the crime was committed, I guess he got clean away.
Coincidentally on the same day at Old Bailey, another Ward was tried for a Marylebone crime.
Robert Ward, 62, sentenced to death (he was later reprieved)
This crime happened just a week after William was nabbed, not sure of the exact location but Wellbeck Street is quite close to Duke Street/Manchester Square.
https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/record/t18161204-8?text=ward

Who knows, maybe Robert was a relation!

I wondered same - nothing on Old Bailey trial record or FindMyPast prison records that might help.

Old Bailey -  https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/search