Walter Withers b1854

[Ratty2]

1861 Census
Checking my facts here. Walter's father was Edwin Withers, rope manufacturer or rope twister. His mother Sarah Welch. Looking for the occupation of Walter in the 1861 Census. He was, I think, a clerk in his father's factory, but would like to be sure.
Thank you

[rosie99]

1861 Census
Looking for the occupation of Walter in the 1861 Census. He was, I think, a clerk in his father's factory, but would like to be sure.

If Walter was born 1854 he would only have been around 7 years old in 1861

[heywood]

In 1871 2970/30/4  he was an apprentice Rope Twister.

[Ratty2]

It is possible that in 1861, age 7, he was a scholar, and possibly at Sutton Coldfield.
Would you mind verifying?

In 1871, an apprentice rope twister is consistent.

[jonwarrn]

1861
Piece 2019 folio 136 page 34
Park Road, Handsworth

Walter H is 6 (I think), not dittoed as a scholar
The Withers are hard to find!
Transcribed as Wilkins on ancestry
And Waltons on FamilySearch + f m p
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M786-9BT

[jonwarrn]

Walter H must be William on that FS link.
Image on ancestry confirms Walter

No more free 1841 and 1861 census images on FamilySearch?

[Ratty2]

That is most helpful - His full name was Walter Herbert
The 1861 reference to Park Road Handsworth is curious. In the 1881 Census the family lives in Park Avenue by the Vicarage ave. There must have been a number of Park street, avenue, road etc.
Thanks again

[Ratty2]

Sorry folks  Have totally failed to find the references you kindly supplied.
Neither Ancestry, FindMyPast, FS nor FreeCen have obliged with any of the names you found - Wilkins or Waltons.
Thanks for the link to FS - yes that's fine, but as you say no free image.

Ditto for 1871: no sign of Withers, Waltons, Wilkins. The only Edwin was Edwin POOLE age 67 of Brm. No Walter willing to put up their hands.

Could you supply the

Household ID
Line Number
Page Number
Piece/Folio
Registration Number
Enumeration District
Ecclesiastical District
Civil Parish

when you do find them? Much obliged

[heywood]

Sorry folks  Have totally failed to find the references you kindly supplied.
Neither Ancestry, FindMyPast, FS nor FreeCen have obliged with any of the names you found - Wilkins or Waltons.
Thanks for the link to FS - yes that's fine, but as you say no free image.

Ditto for 1871: no sign of Withers, Waltons, Wilkins. The only Edwin was Edwin POOLE age 67 of Brm. No Walter willing to put up their hands.

Could you supply the

Household ID
Line Number
Page Number
Piece/Folio
Registration Number
Enumeration District
Ecclesiastical District
Civil Parish

when you do find them? Much obliged

In 1871 2970/30/4  he was an apprentice Rope Twister.

That’s strange. I just used Ancestry and entered the above reference and it is there.
Piece 2970
Folio 30
Page 4
Living in Handsworth.
Edwin Withers b 1805 Birmingham with wife Sarah.