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Offline RCB

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1892 Birth Salt Lake City
« on: Sunday 11 July 21 13:27 BST (UK) »
Hello - yes I've been here before and you unravelled my complicated story of a gambler killed in a gunfight in San Antonio 1884?.  I came here asking for help because my friends mother wanted to know about "Uncle Joe Foster" (her grandmothers uncle)  Sadly Angela died recently aged 95 and happy to have the details people here provided so thank you for that.

This task may be simpler my mother in law recently died aged 91, she was the product of an affair with a married man, we know her fathers details etc, but there was one unusual fact, her father had married a Dorothy Dawes born 27 May 1892 in Salt Lake City, her mother was Sarah Smith, so to give the child the surname Dawes there would be a marriage also? 

I don't see any scandal if Sarah wasn't married and returned to the UK with a child Dorothy, making up a story about being married would anyone question it over a 100 years ago.  I've tried immigration and obviously Smith is a nightmare, and Dawes was little help, and I don't have access to US records. First things first was a Dorothy Dawes registered around that date?  Cheers

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Re: 1892 Birth Salt Lake City
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 July 21 15:42 BST (UK) »
Background-

In 1871/1881 she is Sarah E Smith.

1871 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBC3-R4G

1881 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27T-WJQP

Not in 1891 census, there isn't a 1890 US census.

In 1901, she is listed as Sarah Eleana Dawes, married with a daughter, Dorothy.

1901 Census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSS6-YJF

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May be just a coincidence and may not even be the Sarah in question.

I see a passenger ship record in 1890 with a Sarah E Smith of the right age (b.1860), born England, travelling to New York. Below here on the list is a May Dawes, same age, born in England. Were they travelling together? They are both listed as Miss and listed as spinsters.

Sarah: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPF-YMXR
May: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPF-YMXT


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Re: 1892 Birth Salt Lake City
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 July 21 16:02 BST (UK) »
Brilliant - that all sounds pretty accurate to me.  I did try to delete this post because on checking I had asked before a few years ago.  I don't remember doing that (old age)  I didn't think to use familysearch.  Not my bloodline just me being nosey, but I found that others researching the same family must have seen my details and they've disappeared, closed ranks.  Can a grandfathers affair in the 1920's be something so scandalous today?  But then a cousin didn't like finding out his mother was born in a Workhouse, said I had the wrong person.  Thanks for taking a look.  Fred

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Re: 1892 Birth Salt Lake City
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 July 21 17:55 BST (UK) »
Perhaps Sarah travelled to Salt Lake City to join the Mormons and I would have thought that having a child out of wedlock there would have been a very big scandal. That may be why she returned to the UK.