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Re: Local Place Names in Barnsley in the 1830s
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09 July 21 17:57 BST (UK) »
definitely not like 'cough'  - I'd say 'ow-tun'

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Re: Local Place Names in Barnsley in the 1830s
« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 July 21 18:43 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure but as a Yorkshire woman my guess would have been How-tun. Perhaps sounds like 'owtun depending on how strong the accent is.
Confirm that as an adopted Tyke of 40+ years standing 'Owtun
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 09 July 21 20:46 BST (UK) »
The Deane & Dove canal (Barnsley Branch) runs just to the north and west of Cliffe House with Oaks Quarry to the east of Cliffe House.
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The easiest way to locate is to look for Monk Bretton (bold ink) and Ardsley (bold ink), close to the mass of railway lines, slowly enlarge the scale to view Hunningley (smaller bold type) to the west (left) of Ardsley then Hoyle Mill a little further west. Cliff House is just to the north of Hoyle Mill.
I can't help with Long Houghton but Great Houghton To the East of Monk Bretton could be locally called Long Houghton as it is longer than Little Houghton or Houghton Green.
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Re: Local Place Names in Barnsley in the 1830s
« Reply #12 on: Monday 12 July 21 18:19 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the clarification!
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Re: Local Place Names in Barnsley in the 1830s
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 August 21 18:06 BST (UK) »
Gawd!
How is Houghton pronounced then ?
Like How - Tun

or does it more rhyme with "cough" ?

Sorry, it's a southerner here..!
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Barnsley folk are a little quirky with their accent

Some Placenames

Dodworth = Doderth
Barugh Green = Barr Green
Wombwell = Wumwell
Elsecar = El-se-ca'

Then you can get into the fun non placename ones

Horse = oss or popo's
Pavement Kerb - Corsey Edge
Town = Tarn
Give Over - Gi' ooer
Playing = laiking
Kids = Bairns
Crying = Roaring
 0-0 Nil Nil during a match)= nowt a piece
Spice = Sweets

My wife is from Barnsley, her dads side come from Darfield and myself I'm from Manchester. When I first moved here, I honestly had to have people translate at times as I had no idea....and still at times, when 2 Barnsley blokes are deep in talk, there are words that just completely throw me and Ive been here for 15 years






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Re: Local Place Names in Barnsley in the 1830s
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 August 21 18:52 BST (UK) »
And don't forget "sharpening clog irons on't corsey"
Sharpening clog irons on the pavement (causeway) edge. To watch the sparks fly!. I speak as a Cambridge born southerner who lived the Barnsley side of Doncaster for over 40 years, and served on South Yorkshire County Council where I largely learned the language. Also worked at Doncaster loco depot where we had a large contingent of men after depot closures in the Barnsley area.
By the way Sunday is always referred as 't Sabbath! in the Barnsley area.
After 40+ years southerners say I have a Yorkshire accent, but the locals up there say I have a foreign accent.
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Re: Local Place Names in Barnsley in the 1830s
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 08 August 21 20:48 BST (UK) »
 
And don't forget "sharpening clog irons on't corsey"
Sharpening clog irons on the pavement (causeway) edge. To watch the sparks fly!. I speak as a Cambridge born southerner who lived the Barnsley side of Doncaster for over 40 years, and served on South Yorkshire County Council where I largely learned the language. Also worked at Doncaster loco depot where we had a large contingent of men after depot closures in the Barnsley area.
By the way Sunday is always referred as 't Sabbath! in the Barnsley area.
After 40+ years southerners say I have a Yorkshire accent, but the locals up there say I have a foreign accent.

Same for me, my family say ive an accent, but in Barnsley I stick out like a sore thumb:)


Strangely, my late Father in Law also worked for the council, but Barnsley council from early 80s and based at the Barnsley depot and prior to that worked in the South Yorkshire Fire Bridge .

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 August 21 06:50 BST (UK) »

My wife is from Barnsley, her dads side come from Darfield and myself I'm from Manchester. When I first moved here, I honestly had to have people translate at times as I had no idea....and still at times, when 2 Barnsley blokes are deep in talk, there are words that just completely throw me and Ive been here for 15 years


What threw me coming to Wakefield from Scotland in the 1970s was everyone calling me love (men & women)!
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Re: Local Place Names in Barnsley in the 1830s
« Reply #17 on: Monday 09 August 21 10:49 BST (UK) »
And in Mexborough, in Denaby Main and Conisbrough all males are cock.
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