Matt Hancock Has Resigned

[dowdstree]

Nick_ups could you please explain your reference to Mrs. Murrell?

Confused

Dorrie

[majm]

You need to put your glasses on and for a start look at the Seven Principles of Public life (these include honesty and integrity).

In what way has he been dishonest?

In what way has he lacked integrity?

You seem to assume that he has been dishonest with his wife, but you can have no idea whether or not that is the case.

Judging other people's personal lives on the basis of assumptions is wrong.

Everyone is entitled to have their own morality code, but you aren't entitled to impose yours on other people.

Wow ....  morality code .... knowing right from wrong .... co-operatively behaving as a community.  Putting the interests of the community ahead of your own personal interests ...

JM

[Nick_Ips]

Nick_ups could you please explain your reference to Mrs. Murrell?

Confused

Happy to.  It is quite a well-know example (in some circles) of a relationship in the workplace, in the political sphere, which most of us think is absolutely fine - and none of our business so long as the necessary protocols are being followed.

I used the words "Mrs Murrell" (which I don't endorse the use of) because (a) for some people it will produce a 'I didn't know that' response, and (b) a google search using those words will give top-ranked results showing how those individual's personal decisions are regarded as 'fair game' by judgemental individuals who think they have the right to impose their own ideas of morals and standards on other people (particularly in the political sphere).

In case it remains uncertain, the point I'm making is that relationships in the workplace (particularly in the political sphere) are not uncommon, but not always common knowledge - and that personal choices within the private lives of individuals concerned are a matter for them, not for public scorn or moral judgement, subject to those choices not being incompatible with their position.

Hope that helps.

[groom]

I really don't think the issue here is whether or not he is having an affair, that is his business, although the people I feel sorry for are his wife and children and her husband and children. What is wrong is that he was the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care and was the person telling the whole country to obey the rules of social distancing etc whilst he was obviously breaking them. If he breaks them why can't everyone else. A case of do as I say, not what I do. I feel we have a right to expect those that make the rules to keep them and if they can't then they need to step down from that job.

[Nick_Ips]

I feel we have a right to expect those that make the rules to keep them and if they can't then they need to step down from that job.

I, broadly, agree.  But if we actually applied that policy then virtually every politician currently in post (all parties, all levels) would have to resign.

There cannot be many politicians who can honestly say they have never exceeded the speed limit, have never overstayed their parking by a few minutes, have never paid cash for work, have never consumed an illegal substance, nor engaged in a sexual act proscribed by law.

But then of course none of us should 'cast the first stone' unless we ourselves can honestly say we have never broken a rule or law.

So it comes down to shades of grey... and Hancock was on the wrong side of the line in terms of not following the Covid guidance.

[Rena]

I feel we have a right to expect those that make the rules to keep them and if they can't then they need to step down from that job.

I, broadly, agree.  But if we actually applied that policy then virtually every politician currently in post (all parties, all levels) would have to resign.

There cannot be many politicians who can honestly say they have never exceeded the speed limit, have never overstayed their parking by a few minutes, have never paid cash for work, have never consumed an illegal substance, nor engaged in a sexual act proscribed by law.

But then of course none of us should 'cast the first stone' unless we ourselves can honestly say we have never broken a rule or law.

So it comes down to shades of grey... and Hancock was on the wrong side of the line in terms of not following the Covid guidance.

............ and above we have an example of a person needing to control the conversation by subtle introductions into the original topic.

[Erato]

"a successful businesswoman"

Call me cynical, but I doubt that's the quality that got her the job.

[majm]

Is this Matt Hancock the same person who in 2014-15 was the UK Anti-Corruption Champion?  ... ummm ... 

June 2021, so is he resigning from public life or just from Secretary of that one Ministry- for Health and Social Care?  ..

JM

[Viktoria]

"a successful businesswoman"

Call me cynical, but I doubt that's the quality that got her the job.

Erato!
Viktoria.