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Re: Matt Hancock Has Resigned
« Reply #63 on: Monday 28 June 21 16:15 BST (UK) »

Don't expect too much and you won't be disappointed.

That leads to decreasing standards and the low calibre of national political leadership we currently endure.
Taken to the ultimate it ends in widespread corruption as happens in some countries. Populations  suffer as a result.
Cynicism about politicians and government officials may discourage people from voting. Distrust in government leaves a vacuum for extremism.
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Re: Matt Hancock Has Resigned
« Reply #64 on: Monday 28 June 21 16:21 BST (UK) »
The big part of this news is not the affair, or kiss,
The important public issue is who installed the security camera
That is what needs to be investigated and the perpetrator brought to justice.


They are all important public issues. They all have serious implications. They should all be investigated. Until that happens people resort to speculation. The decision whether or not to hold an inquiry is the P.M.'s.

I think it's understandable that CCTV cameras have been installed and probably installed quite some time ago.   When third parties are trying to undermine democracy why should this have been publicized?    Furthermore, we must not forget that the IRA tried to bomb and kill MPs during John Major's government, thus I think it unreasonable that every Tom, Dick and Harry should know exactly when and where CCTV cameras are installed.

What should be investigated is who released the film, as their action is against the Data Protection Act and whatever other Act something like this.
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Re: Matt Hancock Has Resigned
« Reply #65 on: Monday 28 June 21 16:29 BST (UK) »
The decision whether or not to hold an inquiry is the P.M.'s.

I see that as being a problem - he seems to think this is no big deal, as he wanted the issue closed last Friday as Matt Hancock had apologised.

Quite.
Not a good track record on inquiries. Sat on the "Russia Report" for months (until after general election) before releasing findings when there was so much else going on it didn't get the publicity it might have done earlier. Kept his advisor DC when he should have got rid of him.  Didn't act on inquiry report about a cabinet minister's conduct.
Poacher/gamekeeper and cans of worms spring to mind.
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Re: Matt Hancock Has Resigned
« Reply #66 on: Monday 28 June 21 16:30 BST (UK) »

Don't expect too much and you won't be disappointed.

That leads to decreasing standards and the low calibre of national political leadership we currently endure.
Taken to the ultimate it ends in widespread corruption as happens in some countries. Populations  suffer as a result.
Cynicism about politicians and government officials may discourage people from voting. Distrust in government leaves a vacuum for extremism.
 :(

My thoughts too Maiden Stone.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke


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Re: Matt Hancock Has Resigned
« Reply #67 on: Monday 28 June 21 16:37 BST (UK) »
The decision whether or not to hold an inquiry is the P.M.'s.

I see that as being a problem - he seems to think this is no big deal, as he wanted the issue closed last Friday as Matt Hancock had apologised.

My view on why the PM did not dismiss him straight away is that the PM has had a chequered love life himself, thus it would be the "kettle calling the pot".

Removing the inept portfolio holder only came about because reality dawned that he had not been practicing what he had been preaching  = "HANDS, FACE, SPACE"
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Matt Hancock Has Resigned
« Reply #68 on: Monday 28 June 21 16:39 BST (UK) »

I think it's understandable that CCTV cameras have been installed and probably installed quite some time ago.   When third parties are trying to undermine democracy why should this have been publicized?    Furthermore, we must not forget that the IRA tried to bomb and kill MPs during John Major's government, thus I think it unreasonable that every Tom, Dick and Harry should know exactly when and where CCTV cameras are installed.


IRA attacked Major's gov. by firing mortars at the Cabinet Office. Later attacks have come from outside.
A Secretary of State is not every Tom, Dick or Harry.
The new SoS has "swept" the department for devices - is that what is meant by a "new broom sweeps clean"?  ;D
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Re: Matt Hancock Has Resigned
« Reply #69 on: Monday 28 June 21 16:57 BST (UK) »

Don't expect too much and you won't be disappointed.

That leads to decreasing standards and the low calibre of national political leadership we currently endure.
Taken to the ultimate it ends in widespread corruption as happens in some countries. Populations  suffer as a result.
Cynicism about politicians and government officials may discourage people from voting. Distrust in government leaves a vacuum for extremism.
 :(

My thoughts too Maiden Stone.

But not disappointment   It's just reality.

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Re: Matt Hancock Has Resigned
« Reply #70 on: Monday 28 June 21 17:10 BST (UK) »

I think it's understandable that CCTV cameras have been installed and probably installed quite some time ago.   When third parties are trying to undermine democracy why should this have been publicized?    Furthermore, we must not forget that the IRA tried to bomb and kill MPs during John Major's government, thus I think it unreasonable that every Tom, Dick and Harry should know exactly when and where CCTV cameras are installed.


IRA attacked Major's gov. by firing mortars at the Cabinet Office. Later attacks have come from outside.
A Secretary of State is not every Tom, Dick or Harry.
The new SoS has "swept" the department for devices - is that what is meant by a "new broom sweeps clean"?  ;D

lol   :D :D

So now that we've started removing the CCTV cameras - how will we or MI5 and MI6 know when and where the Ruskies have planted their listening devices?    ::)

Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Matt Hancock Has Resigned
« Reply #71 on: Monday 28 June 21 17:58 BST (UK) »

Don't expect too much and you won't be disappointed.

That leads to decreasing standards and the low calibre of national political leadership we currently endure.
Taken to the ultimate it ends in widespread corruption as happens in some countries. Populations  suffer as a result.
Cynicism about politicians and government officials may discourage people from voting. Distrust in government leaves a vacuum for extremism.
 :(

My thoughts too Maiden Stone.

I agree!  Leaders should be held to higher standards, as other people often are, e.g. teachers, doctors, clergy.
Cheating on one’s spouse shows something about character, no matter how you slice it.  Also no one has mentioned the fact that she was his subordinate - already he’s on thin ice vis a vis workplace behaviour.