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Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« Reply #36 on: Friday 27 September 24 23:44 BST (UK) »
Name   Arthur Marsden
Sex   Male
Father's Name   George Marsden
Mother's Name   Susannah Marsden
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   1862
Event Place   Newbold, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom

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Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« Reply #37 on: Friday 27 September 24 23:54 BST (UK) »
There's a David Marsden, b. 1830 in Chester (St. Oswald), mother Elizabeth (spinster). He married Mary, and their first two sons, Alfred Henry (1852) and William Henry (1859) were born in Wolverhampton. David was a Railway Porter at the time, but further on he was a hatter & furrier.

I wonder if he had a brother John?

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Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 28 September 24 03:34 BST (UK) »
I think you should definitely look into him being a child of a single mother

Father's name on birth certificate can be wrong because the groom doesn't know or because he wants to be more respectable .
The first  name & profession could be of an uncle  grandfather or step father

Wolverhampton birthplace also could be what he's been told .if he moved as a child and his father died young

Good luck with your search .
Btw Have any of his descendants taken a dna test ?
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Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 28 September 24 09:02 BST (UK) »
Signature of the man who married Charlotte Parr in 1886...
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast


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Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 28 September 24 09:03 BST (UK) »
Signature of the man who married Hannah Thomas in 1896
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 28 September 24 12:44 BST (UK) »
Those signatures look quite different to me .
I would say 2 different men.
But maybe more experienced handwriting experts will comment.
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Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 28 September 24 12:58 BST (UK) »
I'd agree with brigidmac - two different signatures.

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
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Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 28 September 24 14:06 BST (UK) »
I think you should definitely look into him being a child of a single mother

Father's name on birth certificate can be wrong because the groom doesn't know or because he wants to be more respectable .
The first  name & profession could be of an uncle  grandfather or step father

Wolverhampton birthplace also could be what he's been told .if he moved as a child and his father died young

Good luck with your search .
Btw Have any of his descendants taken a dna test ?

Thanks, I agree! Regarding DNA, you would have to ask the OP. I'm not related to Arthur, I was just researching his wife Hannah who turned out to be 'Melbourne's most notorious woman' in the 1920's. I love mysteries!

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Re: The mysterious Mr Marsden
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 28 September 24 14:07 BST (UK) »
I agree, different signatures. Arthur and Charlotte's tree is on FamilySearch.